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Old Oct 3, 2007 | 01:57 PM
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Default Turbo boost and 4.10s

I currently have an APS TT on a C6 MM6.
The car had 4.10s prior to TT install.
All the ingredients are there for power.
spark is at ~16*
AFR at WOT is ~11.8
Manifold boost runs 6.5 basically flat from 2800 rpm
But he RWHP runs basically flat at around 400RWHP on a Dynodynamics.
What gives?

Engine is healthy
Compression test is ~205 # +/- 1%
Leakdown is 2%-3% all cylinders

IS 4.10s the issue?

Any suggestions?

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Old Oct 3, 2007 | 04:53 PM
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I am not 100% sure that is all of your problem, but the gear's are not helping you at all!! I think you should have at least no higher than a 3.42! I have 3.23 and love them! The gear's are a good place to start.
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Old Oct 3, 2007 | 04:58 PM
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those numbers make no sense but i agree with chris by saying those gears are no help...get some 3.42's
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Old Oct 3, 2007 | 05:45 PM
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I have a hard time believing you're only making 400rwhp with 6.5psi on an LS2 motor.... Is the dyno messed up or something? Geez.

But yeah.. Those gears have got to go.

3.23
3.42
3.55's may not even be enough... I think it would be a tossup between 3.42s and 3.23s
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Old Oct 3, 2007 | 06:27 PM
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All you guys above; thanks for your responses.

On various boards I am getting mixed opinions. Some say that 4.10s will have no effect. I am leaning toward them having an effect on my problem.

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Old Oct 3, 2007 | 08:31 PM
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Valvesprings... Although a higher numerical gear ratio will yield a lower dyno number it will be a mirror of another gear. Post your graph, if you see power level off and flatline, its springs.
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Old Oct 3, 2007 | 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Dutchesscamaro
All you guys above; thanks for your responses.

On various boards I am getting mixed opinions. Some say that 4.10s will have no effect. I am leaning toward them having an effect on my problem.

thanks


Bob
4.10's definitely have an effect on the street.
I don't know what mind I was in earlier... I neglected to even think about valvesprings.
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Old Oct 3, 2007 | 11:59 PM
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may not be THE issue, but it will certainly help it spool down low
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should still be making more than that without valvesprings, i'm well over that mark with the stockers
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Old Oct 4, 2007 | 10:07 AM
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I am just going to throw this out there! It is probably not what is wrong ,but did the tuner turn off the torque managment on you car?? I have heard that it will pull timing out when the car is under excessive torque. Like I said,probably not the problem you are having,might not have anything to do with it.Never hurt's to ask.
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Old Oct 4, 2007 | 11:11 AM
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Hunter
Thanks.

Torque management is off, timing was slowly raised until knock.

No resolution yet.

Bob
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I'd put good $ that it's valvesprings. The gears aren't gonna do poo as far as what it makes for power or what it doesn't make... you have an issue in the tuning/engine dpeartment.
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Old Oct 4, 2007 | 01:18 PM
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I'm making over 400rwhp at 7psi with a stock lt1 engine and single rearmount turbo. Those dyno numbers were with 4:10 gears also on the mustang dyno. Over the summer I went with a 350 gear ratio and it made a huge difference -it allows the turbo to spool up and run into boost longer -
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Old Oct 4, 2007 | 07:45 PM
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Old Oct 5, 2007 | 08:26 PM
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Get off the computer and change the valvesprings.
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Old Oct 6, 2007 | 06:20 AM
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If I was guaranteed that was the fix, I would change them in a second.
Did you change the springs on your GTO install?

Too many similar setups to mine with 6psi and 500+ rwhp and no spring change.
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Old Oct 6, 2007 | 10:12 AM
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Do you notice the lack of power on the street? If not take it to another dyno or to the track and see what kind of power it is making.
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how many miles are on your stock springs?
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Old Oct 6, 2007 | 01:01 PM
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6,000 k=miles on stock springs
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Old Oct 6, 2007 | 01:02 PM
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As for street driving... I feel that it follows the dyno curve.

Power comes on hard 2000 to 3000 then falls flat.
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