Forced Induction Superchargers | Turbochargers | Intercoolers

Head gasket thickness with F/I

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Oct 16, 2007 | 12:15 AM
  #1  
99mongooSS's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Resident
15 Year Member
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 781
Likes: 2
From: Denton, Tx
Default Head gasket thickness with F/I

How thick of a head gasket are you guys with prochargers or turbos running? And how many #'s of boost are you running with them?
Reply
Old Oct 16, 2007 | 06:33 PM
  #2  
stevieturbo's Avatar
9 Second Club
 
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 13,616
Likes: 185
From: Norn Iron
Default

boost is irrelevant

Most gaskets available range from 40 to 60 thou
Reply
Old Oct 16, 2007 | 08:32 PM
  #3  
99mongooSS's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Resident
15 Year Member
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 781
Likes: 2
From: Denton, Tx
Default

so if I was to run an 0.051 head gasket with 15-18#'s of boost it wont blow the gasket from pressure.
Reply
Old Oct 16, 2007 | 08:38 PM
  #4  
Reject's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (24)
 
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 9,195
Likes: 4
From: Texas
Default

just asking>>> what heads are you running?
Reply
Old Oct 16, 2007 | 09:17 PM
  #5  
99mongooSS's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Resident
15 Year Member
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 781
Likes: 2
From: Denton, Tx
Default

prc LS6 70cc stg 2.5
Reply
Old Oct 16, 2007 | 09:55 PM
  #6  
Zombie's Avatar
10 Second Club
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 2,498
Likes: 4
From: Las Vegas
Default

Originally Posted by 99mongooSS
so if I was to run an 0.051 head gasket with 15-18#'s of boost it wont blow the gasket from pressure.
Do you mean the 18 psi from forced induction or the 1000+ psi of normal combustion?

What is your cyl pressure going to be at 18psi on a normal burn? What about when it detonates? Detonation will cause your cyl pressure to spike to 3000+ PSI in really bad cases. That's when stuff starts to let go.
Reply
Old Oct 16, 2007 | 11:08 PM
  #7  
99mongooSS's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Resident
15 Year Member
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 781
Likes: 2
From: Denton, Tx
Default

15-18 psi of boost from an ATI F1. will a head gasket that is 0.051'' thick going to blow with that amount of boost. Take into effect that I am building this setup with the W2W 1/2'' head studs. I just want to know if I can run a thick head gasket like that or do I need to use like an 0.030'' head gasket.
Reply
Old Oct 16, 2007 | 11:52 PM
  #8  
njc.corp's Avatar
TECH Resident
 
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 952
Likes: 0
Cool

Originally Posted by stevieturbo
boost is irrelevant

Most gaskets available range from 40 to 60 thou
as i am new to this fi section- can u tell me why boost is irrelevant- i am not making fun of what u said just want to have a better understanding as i thought boost and head gasket choices was very important-

thanks in advance-
Reply
LS1 Tech Stories

The Best V8 Stories One Small Block at Time

story-0

Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-2

Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-4

Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

 
story-5

Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

Awesome K5 Blazer Restomod Comes With C7 Corvette Power

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

10 Camaros You Should Never Buy

 
story-9

10 LS Engine Myths That Refuse to Die

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Oct 16, 2007 | 11:54 PM
  #9  
njc.corp's Avatar
TECH Resident
 
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 952
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by Zombie
Do you mean the 18 psi from forced induction or the 1000+ psi of normal combustion?

What is your cyl pressure going to be at 18psi on a normal burn? What about when it detonates? Detonation will cause your cyl pressure to spike to 3000+ PSI in really bad cases. That's when stuff starts to let go.
very interesting- never looked at it from that point of view-
Reply
Old Oct 17, 2007 | 12:46 AM
  #10  
Zombie's Avatar
10 Second Club
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 2,498
Likes: 4
From: Las Vegas
Default

Originally Posted by 99mongooSS
15-18 psi of boost from an ATI F1. will a head gasket that is 0.051'' thick going to blow with that amount of boost. Take into effect that I am building this setup with the W2W 1/2'' head studs. I just want to know if I can run a thick head gasket like that or do I need to use like an 0.030'' head gasket.
I'll simplify it as stevieturbo did:

boost is irrellevant.

Run what ever gasket you want to, no amount of boost from forced induction could ever harm a head gasket. Detonate the motor at 2" vac and you can destroy a gasket though. Boost is a horrible way to measure things, 18psi of "boost" on your car != 18psi "boost" on another car with 400+ cubes and heads that flow 360cfm at 7000+ DA. It's much better to talk about head gasket reliabilty at a given horsepower level.

Your biggest concern will be lifting the heads at the 900-1000 HP level which I still believe is caused by mild detonation (cyl pressure spikes) on most setups since it is often cured by backing off the timing 1-2 degrees.
Reply
Old Oct 17, 2007 | 09:48 AM
  #11  
geeteego's Avatar
11 Second Club
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 503
Likes: 0
From: Orlando, FL
Default

Originally Posted by Zombie
Your biggest concern will be lifting the heads at the 900-1000 HP level which I still believe is caused by mild detonation (cyl pressure spikes) on most setups since it is often cured by backing off the timing 1-2 degrees.

Mine lifted at a lot lower HP level...~750 flywheel.
Reply
Old Oct 17, 2007 | 10:20 AM
  #12  
phildo's Avatar
TECH Apprentice
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 308
Likes: 0
From: Mchenry,IL
Default

Originally Posted by geeteego
Mine lifted at a lot lower HP level...~750 flywheel.
Didn't you also have a stock shortblock? (ie. higher compression 9.5-10.5)
Reply
Old Oct 17, 2007 | 11:51 AM
  #13  
stevieturbo's Avatar
9 Second Club
 
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 13,616
Likes: 185
From: Norn Iron
Default

As others have indicated, detonation etc will kill any gasket regardless of power or boost.

So keep the tune safe, and it will hang together, assuming its a decent build.

I ran my 382 for over a year, and about 10,000 miles before I had a problem, and that was lack of meth related...hence detonation.
No idea of power though, but it was trapping high 140's on pump fuel+meth
Reply
Old Oct 17, 2007 | 12:45 PM
  #14  
geeteego's Avatar
11 Second Club
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 503
Likes: 0
From: Orlando, FL
Default

Originally Posted by phildo
Didn't you also have a stock shortblock? (ie. higher compression 9.5-10.5)
I did. Not the brightest idea.
Reply
Old Oct 17, 2007 | 01:32 PM
  #15  
99mongooSS's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Resident
15 Year Member
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 781
Likes: 2
From: Denton, Tx
Default

ok thanks for the info.
Reply




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:34 PM.

story-0
Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

Slideshow: This heavily modified 1971 Camaro mixes classic muscle car styling with a fifth-generation Camaro interior and modern LS3 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:06:42


VIEW MORE
story-1
6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

Slideshow: From wobbling harmonic balancers to failed EBCMs, these are the issues that define long-term C5 ownership and what repairs typically involve.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-07 18:44:57


VIEW MORE
story-2
Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

Slideshow: A modern Camaro transformed into a retro icon, this limited-run "Bandit" build blends nostalgia with brute force in a way few revivals manage.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-21 13:57:02


VIEW MORE
story-3
Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

Slideshow: Cadillac didn't just crash the high-performance luxury vehicle party, it showed up loud, supercharged, and occasionally a little unhinged...

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-16 10:05:15


VIEW MORE
story-4
Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

Slideshow: Top ten most powerful Chevy trucks ever made

By | 2026-03-25 09:22:26


VIEW MORE
story-5
Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

Slideshow: Hennessey has turned the Silverado ZR2 into a 700-hp off-road monster with supercharged V8 power and a limited production run.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-24 18:57:52


VIEW MORE
story-6
Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

Slideshow: A one-off sports car that looks like a vintage Italian exotic-but hides a C6 Corvette underneath-just sold for the price of a new mid-engine Corvette.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-23 18:53:41


VIEW MORE
story-7
Awesome K5 Blazer Restomod Comes With C7 Corvette Power

Slideshow: A heavily reworked 1972 K5 Blazer swaps its off-road roots for a low-slung street-focused build with modern V8 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-09 18:08:45


VIEW MORE
story-8
10 Camaros You Should Never Buy

Slideshow: There are thousands of used Camaros on the market but we think you should avoid these 10

By | 2026-02-17 17:09:30


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 LS Engine Myths That Refuse to Die

Slideshows: Which one of these myths do you believe?

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-01-28 18:10:11


VIEW MORE