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Old 11-21-2007, 04:04 AM
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thanks guys, but the guy who i bought it from has not been on here since he responded saying that he did not have the money to respond or that he did not know it wasnt a gt47-88. I think he is going to give me the run around if anything but i know he probably wont address this problem so i guess i am probably out $1300.
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Originally Posted by Smokin87TA
thanks guys, but the guy who i bought it from has not been on here since he responded saying that he did not have the money to respond or that he did not know it wasnt a gt47-88. I think he is going to give me the run around if anything but i know he probably wont address this problem so i guess i am probably out $1300.
thats horrible.
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You deffinantly should report him to a moderator, see if he can get banned for something like that.
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Originally Posted by DrTurbo
Its a TV based turbo off a Detroit diesel. Manufacture date would have been around 1981-1987 or so. Pretty old unit and doesn't spool to fast. As for GT47....I would tell him he is false advertising that turbo. Nothing GT47 about it...other then its big.
I know the TV units are old technology, but for the cost how would you rank them performance wise?
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damn that sucks. on **** like that i prefer a local sale so that doesnt happen
Old 11-27-2007, 11:49 AM
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I want to clear a few things up because there would appear to be some assumptions here that are not entirely accurate. First, I am the gent that sold the turbo to the guy (Marcus) that "Smokin87TA" bought it from. I bought it from another member that resides both here and on the Turbobuick.com forum. He assured me that it is in fact a GT4788 and he did make a touch over 1000-RWHP with it on a SBC in his (converted) GN. I am getting together a conference call to figure out what is going on here and to put all of this to rest. If something is legitimately wrong then I will make it right and then handle my purchase of the turbo but if this is something shady or simply a case of realizing after the fact that this turbo is too big for ones use then that is another matter. I decided not to use it simply because I have gotten out of building dedicated track cars and am sticking to "street" cars so I went with a PTS 76-mm. I am sending a copy of this thread link to the gent that I bought the turbo from and requesting that he get involved as he is also a member here. So before anyone goes assuming anything I believe this needs to be worked out among those of us involved.

To the originator of the thread, I am not sure how long it took for Marcus to answer your PM but FYI, I am waiting on parts myself and it has been several weeks now. I don't rush to the forum to create an issue without first trying to work it out in person. That is why I make sure to get phone numbers. I would certainly hope that no one is trying to pull a fast one on anyone else. We will get this resolved. Thank you.

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Originally Posted by Big Geek
If something is legitimately wrong then I will make it right and then handle my purchase of the turbo but if this is something shady or simply a case of realizing after the fact that this turbo is too big for ones use then that is another matter.
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Well thank you very much for posting up, believe me i am not looking to go smaller and trying to dump this off on someone, if i get this all straightened i am going to buy, fireball's gt47-88 that he has for sale. So its not like i am going to a 76mm i want a true gt47-88. The main concern is that the exhaust turbine housing is WAY to large for me to use. Yea it might make good power but will take forever to spool. I mean this thing has a 1.45 A/R which is huge, most guys making a ton of power still have .96 to 1.08 A/R's and still spool moderatly. This turbo would probably be a total dog out of the hole.
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That turbo is a GT47-88mm, although it had some custom work / components done to it. I am the original owner of the turbo, and made 935 RWHP @ 21psi with my 358ci SBC in my GN 2 years ago with it. I am sure my screen name carries no weight on here, but on chitownracing.com, racingjunk.com, turbobuick.com, t6p.com, turbomustangs.com, etc. my screen name is Turbocliff. If you go on streetfire or youtube and type my name in, youll be able to see a video of the pull, and im pretty sure youll be able to recognize that very turbo on the car with the hood up.

Any other questions feel free to call me directly 630-774-5009, I sold it a year ago, and might not remember every detail as I've owned several large frame turbos since then, but BELIEVE me nobody is pulling the wool over your eyes. You have a BAD **** turbo in your hands, and to trade it for an off the shelf GT47-88 would be a shame.

Hope this is helpful-

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Also, as far as being a "dog" out of the hole with that exaust housing, I ran a DRC400 with a tight 3000 hipster converter (i do not recommend this converter at all), and went 1.40 60 foot leaving off of 1psi. I was unable to build boost after that, but it was not because of the turbo, it was because it spiked so hard it shattered the sprag in my converter, causing it to dead wall at 2400rpm on the t-brake.
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Post some better pics of the compressor wheel, Turbine wheel and any part #'s
Take a tape measure and see if it measures around 3 3/8" from tip to tip on compressor wheel.
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Turbocliff is a good guy and have dealt with him in the past. Bought a g-body 12 point cage and centerline warrior rims.
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I live in Schaumburg, by golf and roselle. Bring the turbo over sometime and i'll tell you if its a GT47. (unbiased, I am not doubting anyone on here, turbocliff, etc.) I will just help you either rest assured that it is a 47 or help you find out its not. I've seen more GT47's in my life than a normal human being. PM me if you want me to check it out.

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i did most of the work on turbocliffs car...its a gt47-88..it also made 1000rwhp on SP's mustang dyno...


i can tell you cliff is a stand up guy and wont deal anyone wrong. i have done alot of work for me and currently. also have delt alot of parts for me..never had a problem
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Originally Posted by Willem @ Fuel Injection Concepts
I live in Schaumburg, by golf and roselle. Bring the turbo over sometime and i'll tell you if its a GT47. (unbiased, I am not doubting anyone on here, turbocliff, etc.) I will just help you either rest assured that it is a 47 or help you find out its not. I've seen more GT47's in my life than a normal human being. PM me if you want me to check it out.
Thanks and i might just take up your offer on that anyway. I know cliff and cant believe that he sold his turbo from here and a year later it ends up back right here. Well after watching these video's i think it might work for me. The a/r is still larger than i originally wanted it to be. Its a 1.23 but that might work well on e85? any comments on that? Thanks, Tim

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/b...76010cca88.htm
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/4...76010f3814.htm
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I realize what car turbocliffs is now (I've seen it in person) It definitly was a GT47 back then, but I still have no prob checking it out for you if it will help you sleep better at night.

What CI are you going to be?
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Here is the setup i will be running.......


fully forged 408
racing lifters, dual roller, ported oil pump, chromoly pr's.
arp 1/2" head studs
o ringed ported 317 heads by opel
mid 230's cam over 600 lift
carb style fi intake with 90 elbow and 90mm tb.
custom tubular headers and crossover
the turbo
160lb injectors on e85
dual 044 bosch fuel pumps
msbc-1 boost controller
50mm tial bov
48mm turbonetics racegate
5" dp with bullet muffler
33x14x4 intercooler and 3" piping

th400 with ??converter
ford 9" with probably 3.50's
forged 4130 chromoly d.s.

Tim
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the A/R is fine.. you actually have a HUGE motor for that tiny GT47 turbine. (flame suit on, but the GT47 is SMALL for a >400ci motor.)

Let me know if you need a bad *** convertor done specifically for this setup.. I know probably one of the best guys in the industry.
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Sounds good, yea shoot me a pm about that converter, as of right now im not set on anything so i am open to all options. Tim
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Neil Chance bolt together... be the last converter you ever buy. Pricey I know, but it's worth it.
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Originally Posted by Willem @ Fuel Injection Concepts
the A/R is fine.. you actually have a HUGE motor for that tiny GT47 turbine. (flame suit on, but the GT47 is SMALL for a >400ci motor.)

Let me know if you need a bad *** convertor done specifically for this setup.. I know probably one of the best guys in the industry.
I agree that you can go with a bigger turbo @ 400in....Did you see the little hamster wheel on the new ride?


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