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Old 12-18-2007, 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by SuperZ
Awesome vid!!!!! Thats a mean sounding ride!

1k horsepower has also been done on a LS1 stock block and crank.
We are talking stock long block no work done to the motor at all.
Old 12-18-2007, 12:43 PM
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^^^you beat me too it, I was going to say the same thing.....
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1k on a ls1! Does anyone have a video
or a link for that?
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Originally Posted by 2002camaroSS
Thats not true, a dude from my area made 998rwhp on a stock block and has been on his same motor for a couple years. The cobra motors come built very good from the factory they come with arp rod bolts and other goodies. Dont hate on it just because it a ford i have respect for these cars you need to give respect when its due. I cant believe you would make a comment like that obviously you nothing about these cars.

Here is a vid of marks car all stock motor with a 88 on it. And he was the highest hp stock block until i saw this thread.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isl-Ggtgrgo
you Dont know Marks car too well, he has went through 5 or 6 stock long blocks this summer alone! I have worked on the car a couple times.....
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Originally Posted by Carnutz
you Dont know Marks car too well, he has went through 5 or 6 stock long blocks this summer alone! I have worked on the car a couple times.....
My buddy has worked on his car before he hasnt gone threw that many long blocks. Your right im not good enough friends with him to know alot but my buddy has worked on his car since it was a twin screw setup. He went threw 2 due to the car running lean which he claimed was his fault. So what does that prove? Anything will blow up if its lean. Doesnt prove the fact that they can with hold it or not at the stage of tuning it is critical. And he never blew it up on his 76 kit.
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shouldnt it be close to that with the two turbos seems like it would be a bitch to tune and high IAT to deal with for detonation.
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He did but it wasnt the power level, it was the alch injection..but what ever, he has really started having problems as of late trying to get over the 1000 Hp hump.
Reguardless of the set-up the pistons or head gaskets seem to exit when he starts pushing the 1k level.
I know for sure there was at a minimum of 4 long blocks this last summer. He has the package working well tho as its went 8.95 and in the 150's..... still leaving soft.
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Very nice numbers.

I'd be interested to see the curve on that setup at 700rwhp vs. a turbo only setup at 700rwhp.
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Originally Posted by ScreaminRedZ
Very nice numbers.

I'd be interested to see the curve on that setup at 700rwhp vs. a turbo only setup at 700rwhp.
Me too, first thing I thought of. More torque down low?
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So just so I dont think you're crazy, you say that thing has 2 turbo AND the blower, as in 3 power adders?
Thats just ****** insane
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Originally Posted by SuperZ
Awesome vid!!!!! Thats a mean sounding ride!

1k horsepower has also been done on a LS1 stock block and crank.
Stock pistons and conrods too?
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Originally Posted by ScreaminRedZ
I'd be interested to see the curve on that setup at 700rwhp vs. a turbo only setup at 700rwhp.

Best question in this thread.
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Originally Posted by bboyferal
Best question in this thread.

I second that, get to wrenching on that thing and lets see
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IAT isn't as bad as yall think. the efficiency of the roots is much higher in this case than normal. instead of making 25psi, or 25x normal out of the roots blower, the blower lets say doubling or tripling the boost from the turbos, so only 3x
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Ussing the root's blower takes alot of lag out of the setup.In low rpm area's we gained 2-300hp over just the twin turbo.The root's was pulleyed for a high boost but made crappy power.We then put on the stock pulley and made a great deal more.Over spinning the blower just introduced a ton of heat. The twin turbo's are intercooled before it hit's the stock setup,also there is a meth kit too that helps.
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why not hit it with a dry kit to keep the supercharger temps down, or come co2. 4 power adders would be insane.
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Originally Posted by Phoenix 5.7
IAT isn't as bad as yall think. the efficiency of the roots is much higher in this case than normal. instead of making 25psi, or 25x normal out of the roots blower, the blower lets say doubling or tripling the boost from the turbos, so only 3x
Sorry to break it to you buddy but 25 lbs of boost is not 25 times atmosphere, its 2.7 times atmosphere (assuming the pressure is about 14.7 psi).

I think the reason the roots doesn't become a restriction is that the air has been already compressed and cooled from the turbo/intercooler and at that point the blower is just working on the pressure differential then of input and output. Volume of air is the same, just the density is different.
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Originally Posted by unit213
On a side note, I wouldn't be standing anywhere near that car during one of those
pulls. The last thing I need is a connecting rod in the eye.
+1, I was thinking the same exact thing. Especially if I knew all that was posted in this thread.
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Originally Posted by Slowhawk
Ussing the root's blower takes alot of lag out of the setup.In low rpm area's we gained 2-300hp over just the twin turbo.The root's was pulleyed for a high boost but made crappy power.We then put on the stock pulley and made a great deal more.Over spinning the blower just introduced a ton of heat. The twin turbo's are intercooled before it hit's the stock setup,also there is a meth kit too that helps.
that what the mini guys are finding. bigger pullies just mpush the SC harder and casue lots of problems. their SC's where getting so hot that the rotors would touch the housings! obviouly this problem is reduced if you can run an intercooler and meth but they have no space to do it.

can you post the graph?? also have you got any pics of the engine bay??

Thanks Chris.
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Originally Posted by unit213

On a side note, I wouldn't be standing anywhere near that car during one of those
pulls. The last thing I need is a connecting rod in the eye.
You'll notice the position of people ready to jump if neededOur race cars rev to almost 9k rpm through powerglides on that dyno making over 1k rwhp.We've seen alot of blown motors and even worse-blown tranny's.


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