turbo project about to start-
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here you go http://www.exoticperformanceplus.com...Car.php?car=34 Dont get me wrong I know what you are looking for but it seems there are some holes in your project.
If you are going with the BS3 why a MSD? I have never ran A intercooler with methonal(what heads are you planning on running?)
I like as much info as possible but .... What you have in the woodworks I would be looking @ EGT sensors's rather than a dual wideband setup
On the topic of the LSX setup I think you know what you are talking about. You just cannot get enough C.D. To safely make a lot of cubic inches with the short deck to build big power. Dont get me wrong... there is big power out there, but it should be used with extreme caution and a superb tune up. This kind of tune up can't be found on some online write up. It takes a LOT of trial and error. The motor we are building is a talldeck Warhawk that we are limiting to 440 cid for what we think is the minimal C.D. that it is going to take to get this thing in the mid 6's
What you really need to do is sit down and really, really think about what is going on here ... @ this point you need to throw shelf parts out the window... The matter of fact is to get custom stuff out of american suppliers is really not that much over shelf prices ( and you need custom stuff) We work very tight with our rotating assemblie suppliers to insure we have the best stuff availble at any given time.
We have the first talldeck warhawk availible sitting @ our shop right know, and plan to make 1800+ with it. With out hoping to have a block availible it has taking months of research to get get everything in check. I have been talking to MGP for three weeks just to get a rod built.... That is just what it takes.
Brent
If you are going with the BS3 why a MSD? I have never ran A intercooler with methonal(what heads are you planning on running?)
I like as much info as possible but .... What you have in the woodworks I would be looking @ EGT sensors's rather than a dual wideband setup
On the topic of the LSX setup I think you know what you are talking about. You just cannot get enough C.D. To safely make a lot of cubic inches with the short deck to build big power. Dont get me wrong... there is big power out there, but it should be used with extreme caution and a superb tune up. This kind of tune up can't be found on some online write up. It takes a LOT of trial and error. The motor we are building is a talldeck Warhawk that we are limiting to 440 cid for what we think is the minimal C.D. that it is going to take to get this thing in the mid 6's
What you really need to do is sit down and really, really think about what is going on here ... @ this point you need to throw shelf parts out the window... The matter of fact is to get custom stuff out of american suppliers is really not that much over shelf prices ( and you need custom stuff) We work very tight with our rotating assemblie suppliers to insure we have the best stuff availble at any given time.
We have the first talldeck warhawk availible sitting @ our shop right know, and plan to make 1800+ with it. With out hoping to have a block availible it has taking months of research to get get everything in check. I have been talking to MGP for three weeks just to get a rod built.... That is just what it takes.
Brent
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From: Decatur IN.
There really is not alot of difference if you think about it running high to mid 6,s in a door car VS. running mid 7,s in a full bodied car...2300# VS.3200# It is still alot of power.
I think you will have to run it like a all out race car and it is going to take alot of Preventitive maintience is all Im saying.
As far as stroke I would not put anything in it longer than 4.0,I would also move your reluctur wheel to the outside of the balancer (so you do not have to notch your piston) I would also go with a rod that has the thickest small end availible that will fit your piston. put in a .220 wall .927 pin and build a piston.
I would love to run a bigger pin but you have to keep the Bob weight down....
We plan on burning ours down a few times you know what I mean?So we are keeping a fat ring pack in it for know. also make sure your rod will have plenty of beef up top if your planning on going over 7500 rpm.
The shelf rods that are out there will fit EVERYTHING That is why Im saying sit down think about it. Spend some time talking with manafactures that have been doing this stuff in other things rather than LSx stuff.
I ran a intercooler on the 4cyl. ECO-TEC gasoline stuff and it went in the 6,s W/a 2300#car.When we went to alky we put 2 injectors in the TB and later took them out FWIW.
Brent
I think you will have to run it like a all out race car and it is going to take alot of Preventitive maintience is all Im saying.
As far as stroke I would not put anything in it longer than 4.0,I would also move your reluctur wheel to the outside of the balancer (so you do not have to notch your piston) I would also go with a rod that has the thickest small end availible that will fit your piston. put in a .220 wall .927 pin and build a piston.
I would love to run a bigger pin but you have to keep the Bob weight down....
We plan on burning ours down a few times you know what I mean?So we are keeping a fat ring pack in it for know. also make sure your rod will have plenty of beef up top if your planning on going over 7500 rpm.
The shelf rods that are out there will fit EVERYTHING That is why Im saying sit down think about it. Spend some time talking with manafactures that have been doing this stuff in other things rather than LSx stuff.
I ran a intercooler on the 4cyl. ECO-TEC gasoline stuff and it went in the 6,s W/a 2300#car.When we went to alky we put 2 injectors in the TB and later took them out FWIW.
Brent
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There really is not alot of difference if you think about it running high to mid 6,s in a door car VS. running mid 7,s in a full bodied car...2300# VS.3200# It is still alot of power.
I think you will have to run it like a all out race car and it is going to take alot of Preventitive maintience is all Im saying.
As far as stroke I would not put anything in it longer than 4.0,I would also move your reluctur wheel to the outside of the balancer (so you do not have to notch your piston) I would also go with a rod that has the thickest small end availible that will fit your piston. put in a .220 wall .927 pin and build a piston.
I would love to run a bigger pin but you have to keep the Bob weight down....
We plan on burning ours down a few times you know what I mean?So we are keeping a fat ring pack in it for know. also make sure your rod will have plenty of beef up top if your planning on going over 7500 rpm.
The shelf rods that are out there will fit EVERYTHING That is why Im saying sit down think about it. Spend some time talking with manafactures that have been doing this stuff in other things rather than LSx stuff.
I ran a intercooler on the 4cyl. ECO-TEC gasoline stuff and it went in the 6,s W/a 2300#car.When we went to alky we put 2 injectors in the TB and later took them out FWIW.
Brent
I think you will have to run it like a all out race car and it is going to take alot of Preventitive maintience is all Im saying.
As far as stroke I would not put anything in it longer than 4.0,I would also move your reluctur wheel to the outside of the balancer (so you do not have to notch your piston) I would also go with a rod that has the thickest small end availible that will fit your piston. put in a .220 wall .927 pin and build a piston.
I would love to run a bigger pin but you have to keep the Bob weight down....
We plan on burning ours down a few times you know what I mean?So we are keeping a fat ring pack in it for know. also make sure your rod will have plenty of beef up top if your planning on going over 7500 rpm.
The shelf rods that are out there will fit EVERYTHING That is why Im saying sit down think about it. Spend some time talking with manafactures that have been doing this stuff in other things rather than LSx stuff.
I ran a intercooler on the 4cyl. ECO-TEC gasoline stuff and it went in the 6,s W/a 2300#car.When we went to alky we put 2 injectors in the TB and later took them out FWIW.
Brent
