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224/228 .581/.588 114 LSA
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228/232 .590/.592 114 LSA
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33.33%
230/238 .580/.590 115 LSA
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42.53%
232/242 .595/.602 113LSA
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Old 01-23-2008, 03:19 PM
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I like reverse or even splits. I don't like any of those cams ALL that much.
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I usually recommend conservative cams to my customers. I use standard split cams more times than not due to the personal results I have seen. Your 370 will be fine at 8.5:1 compression. I will send you a PM when I get back to my main PC tonight. Gotta love this iPhone.
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Originally Posted by Josh @ KYTP
I usually recommend conservative cams to my customers. I use standard split cams more times than not due to the personal results I have seen. Your 370 will be fine at 8.5:1 compression. I will send you a PM when I get back to my main PC tonight. Gotta love this iPhone.
Why not a BIG cam?

Like 240ish duration 640ish lift?
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Its guys like you I got to love, I wish I was close to you so I could just bring my baby into you and work your majic. Only problem is I live in Canada, lol

Thanks again Josh its really appreciated

P.S. - No kidding gotta love your iphone, don't have that luxury either, lol
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I think the benefit of running a larger cam is that you can get away with more boost as DCR decreases. It really depends on where you want the boost to come in. With a T4 flange and a .96a/r I would run a mid sized cam like the 228/232 but on a 112 or a little bigger. Overlap isn't going to kill you as you continue to go up in cubes and with an auto spooling won't be an issue at all with that turbo. The EPP style cam is definitely getting it done as well so I would consider one of those two (the 232/240).
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I went the opposite way of most, I'm running a z06 cam in my 370, but I'm probably only going to manage high 9's out of my setup due to being out of turbo and weighing 3800+.

I don't think that large cams or heads that flow better than stock 317 castings are required in a street car setup unless you want to spend the money for the sake of spending it. I've been mid 10's on 13psi in Vegas with a 4000+ DA and can probably do it on less now that I've worked out some more back pressure bugs. My motor is a 6.0 with rods and pistons, nothing special.

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Originally Posted by ninetres
Why not a BIG cam?

Like 240ish duration 640ish lift?
I tend to look at the build as a whole. He is not building a race car. He is building a high HP street car. Why use a can suited for the track when it us not needed?

For a race car I would recomend a much bigger cam. Even though most people would think it was still small.
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Thanks boys, I agree with the points mentioned about the street car. It's confirmed that my CR will be 8.73:1 due to -12cc pistons. This I think leaves me right at the happy medium of where I want to be. Especially a street car.

To be honest and may be dumn to some of you but I want to have somewhat of a noticable idle. I love the sounds of a old muscle car on a modern day car. Doesn't have to sound like its going to die and remember I will have a 3.5'' cutout to which will most likely be open most of the time so saying that I" am sure that even the smaller ones will complement that as well.

The main reason why I wanted a somewhat bigger cam was that I was destroking down to a 370 from a 408 and will there be spinning it a decent ammount higher and want the turbo to be happy up there too. You guys are the pro's here, I am not looking for the 'best' all out performance but from the cams mentioned I'd like to achieve closest to that. I am new to the 370 and haven't researched it that much so need some more light shined on it if possible.

Thanks for all the responses thus far, keep it coming guys!
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You don't need a huge cam, I've seen motors make 850 hp @5,500 rpm on pump gas.

Why rev it and have to run more stall or gear to keep it in the rev range, and why stress the parts and valve train more, not to mention lose gas mileage.

I'd use a spec like the smallest duration cam with a 115 lobe.
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Originally Posted by RAGENZ28
You don't need a huge cam, I've seen motors make 850 hp @5,500 rpm on pump gas.

Why rev it and have to run more stall or gear to keep it in the rev range, and why stress the parts and valve train more, not to mention lose gas mileage.

I'd use a spec like the smallest duration cam with a 115 lobe.
Ya I know, thats what I keep trying to tell myself but I'd really like to find that happy medium of not too big. It is a 370, so a fair size biggger than stock but you are right its a turbo street car that doesn't need a huge cam to perform well. I like your thinking on stress too. I knew I came to the right place for advice, anymore takers............

I am kinda leaning towards the 228/232 so far not b/c of the poll but I agree with the smaller cam theory but its the next size up. Plus, ironically its my favorite cam that I've always wanted to try from my countless research that I've done for cams.
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Just sent ya a PM.
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Thanks again Josh, you are the best!

Awesome customer service here!

Any other takers?
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your gonna make great power whether or not you pick the first cam or the second cam.
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Originally Posted by Josh@MASPORT
your gonna make great power whether or not you pick the first cam or the second cam.
Thanks again to you Josh, you also were a great help. You are right and you guys made up my mind on the smaller cams, either the first or second one it is. I am still thinkning about something like a 228/228 113ish LSA, I believe this is what TRT uses for a turbo cam. Thanks guys
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No Problem.
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Those are all off the shelf cams, why not call a place like comp cams, tell them your exact setup and see what they recommend, they did a custom grind nitrous cam for me and it worked awesome.

If you want max power in the rpm range you want a custom cam is the way to go.
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Ya you are right but thought that one of these would work good enough, lol

Really with a serious turbo build or any for that matter you can't really go wrong with a smaller sized cam. I am now beginning to think and persue myself to the 224/228 .581/.588 114 LSA. I think this would work good and off boost power would be better than any of the bigger one's, esopecially down low. Its fairly close to many which ahve recommended me as well. I think if I got a custom one still it would be around a 228/228 or so. Either that or one of those big traditional splits. Like a gt2-3 for example but on a narrower LSA.
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Originally Posted by Websy21
Ya you are right but thought that one of these would work good enough, lol

Really with a serious turbo build or any for that matter you can't really go wrong with a smaller sized cam. I am now beginning to think and persue myself to the 224/228 .581/.588 114 LSA. I think this would work good and off boost power would be better than any of the bigger one's, esopecially down low. Its fairly close to many which ahve recommended me as well. I think if I got a custom one still it would be around a 228/228 or so. Either that or one of those big traditional splits. Like a gt2-3 for example but on a narrower LSA.
Ill be running a 24x/23x 64x/61x on a 114. Camotion stick speced by Stenod.

I ran it before and it was NASTY. QUICK spool, good off boost scoot and pulled like a freight train up top.
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Originally Posted by ninetres
Ill be running a 24x/23x 64x/61x on a 114. Camotion stick speced by Stenod.

I ran it before and it was NASTY. QUICK spool, good off boost scoot and pulled like a freight train up top.
that is exactly the cam camotions speced me, almost. mine is on a 114+4. similiar numbers on the duration and lift.
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Originally Posted by red83
that is exactly the cam camotions speced me, almost. mine is on a 114+4. similiar numbers on the duration and lift.
You guys must be pretty much race applications than, not? Thats some sick lift and will have to check/replace springs fairly often. I honestly would really like to have somewhat a decent sized cam. I just like the sounds of it, no pun intended but also like hearing a bad *** cam as well.

I am still f***ed up over this, lol Don't know which way to go. Big or small? I don't really think I can go wrong with the 228/232 cam. Maybe I might jsut have to call up a sponsor, etc. I personally don't believe in reverse splits if thats what they are going to say. Again I'd take a straight split though.

The poll keeps changing, come on guys........... what do ya think?


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