View Poll Results: Help me pick a cam, all are ready to throw in! Not 100% on the lifts but are close!
224/228 .581/.588 114 LSA
12
13.79%
228/232 .590/.592 114 LSA
29
33.33%
230/238 .580/.590 115 LSA
37
42.53%
232/242 .595/.602 113LSA
9
10.34%
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370 turbo build
I usually recommend conservative cams to my customers. I use standard split cams more times than not due to the personal results I have seen. Your 370 will be fine at 8.5:1 compression. I will send you a PM when I get back to my main PC tonight. Gotta love this iPhone.
I usually recommend conservative cams to my customers. I use standard split cams more times than not due to the personal results I have seen. Your 370 will be fine at 8.5:1 compression. I will send you a PM when I get back to my main PC tonight. Gotta love this iPhone.
Like 240ish duration 640ish lift?
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Its guys like you I got to love, I wish I was close to you so I could just bring my baby into you and work your majic. Only problem is I live in Canada, lol
Thanks again Josh its really appreciated
P.S. - No kidding gotta love your iphone, don't have that luxury either, lol
Thanks again Josh its really appreciated
P.S. - No kidding gotta love your iphone, don't have that luxury either, lol
I think the benefit of running a larger cam is that you can get away with more boost as DCR decreases. It really depends on where you want the boost to come in. With a T4 flange and a .96a/r I would run a mid sized cam like the 228/232 but on a 112 or a little bigger. Overlap isn't going to kill you as you continue to go up in cubes and with an auto spooling won't be an issue at all with that turbo. The EPP style cam is definitely getting it done as well so I would consider one of those two (the 232/240).
I went the opposite way of most, I'm running a z06 cam in my 370, but I'm probably only going to manage high 9's out of my setup due to being out of turbo and weighing 3800+.
I don't think that large cams or heads that flow better than stock 317 castings are required in a street car setup unless you want to spend the money for the sake of spending it. I've been mid 10's on 13psi in Vegas with a 4000+ DA and can probably do it on less now that I've worked out some more back pressure bugs. My motor is a 6.0 with rods and pistons, nothing special.
I don't think that large cams or heads that flow better than stock 317 castings are required in a street car setup unless you want to spend the money for the sake of spending it. I've been mid 10's on 13psi in Vegas with a 4000+ DA and can probably do it on less now that I've worked out some more back pressure bugs. My motor is a 6.0 with rods and pistons, nothing special.
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I tend to look at the build as a whole. He is not building a race car. He is building a high HP street car. Why use a can suited for the track when it us not needed?
For a race car I would recomend a much bigger cam. Even though most people would think it was still small.
For a race car I would recomend a much bigger cam. Even though most people would think it was still small.
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Thanks boys, I agree with the points mentioned about the street car. It's confirmed that my CR will be 8.73:1 due to -12cc pistons. This I think leaves me right at the happy medium of where I want to be. Especially a street car.
To be honest and may be dumn to some of you but I want to have somewhat of a noticable idle. I love the sounds of a old muscle car on a modern day car. Doesn't have to sound like its going to die and remember I will have a 3.5'' cutout to which will most likely be open most of the time
so saying that I" am sure that even the smaller ones will complement that as well.
The main reason why I wanted a somewhat bigger cam was that I was destroking down to a 370 from a 408 and will there be spinning it a decent ammount higher and want the turbo to be happy up there too. You guys are the pro's here, I am not looking for the 'best' all out performance but from the cams mentioned I'd like to achieve closest to that. I am new to the 370 and haven't researched it that much so need some more light shined on it if possible.
Thanks for all the responses thus far, keep it coming guys!
To be honest and may be dumn to some of you but I want to have somewhat of a noticable idle. I love the sounds of a old muscle car on a modern day car. Doesn't have to sound like its going to die and remember I will have a 3.5'' cutout to which will most likely be open most of the time
so saying that I" am sure that even the smaller ones will complement that as well.The main reason why I wanted a somewhat bigger cam was that I was destroking down to a 370 from a 408 and will there be spinning it a decent ammount higher and want the turbo to be happy up there too. You guys are the pro's here, I am not looking for the 'best' all out performance but from the cams mentioned I'd like to achieve closest to that. I am new to the 370 and haven't researched it that much so need some more light shined on it if possible.
Thanks for all the responses thus far, keep it coming guys!
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You don't need a huge cam, I've seen motors make 850 hp @5,500 rpm on pump gas.
Why rev it and have to run more stall or gear to keep it in the rev range, and why stress the parts and valve train more, not to mention lose gas mileage.
I'd use a spec like the smallest duration cam with a 115 lobe.
Why rev it and have to run more stall or gear to keep it in the rev range, and why stress the parts and valve train more, not to mention lose gas mileage.
I'd use a spec like the smallest duration cam with a 115 lobe.
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You don't need a huge cam, I've seen motors make 850 hp @5,500 rpm on pump gas.
Why rev it and have to run more stall or gear to keep it in the rev range, and why stress the parts and valve train more, not to mention lose gas mileage.
I'd use a spec like the smallest duration cam with a 115 lobe.
Why rev it and have to run more stall or gear to keep it in the rev range, and why stress the parts and valve train more, not to mention lose gas mileage.
I'd use a spec like the smallest duration cam with a 115 lobe.
I am kinda leaning towards the 228/232 so far not b/c of the poll but I agree with the smaller cam theory but its the next size up. Plus, ironically its my favorite cam that I've always wanted to try from my countless research that I've done for cams.
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Those are all off the shelf cams, why not call a place like comp cams, tell them your exact setup and see what they recommend, they did a custom grind nitrous cam for me and it worked awesome.
If you want max power in the rpm range you want a custom cam is the way to go.
If you want max power in the rpm range you want a custom cam is the way to go.
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Ya you are right but thought that one of these would work good enough, lol
Really with a serious turbo build or any for that matter you can't really go wrong with a smaller sized cam. I am now beginning to think and persue myself to the 224/228 .581/.588 114 LSA. I think this would work good and off boost power would be better than any of the bigger one's, esopecially down low. Its fairly close to many which ahve recommended me as well. I think if I got a custom one still it would be around a 228/228 or so. Either that or one of those big traditional splits. Like a gt2-3 for example but on a narrower LSA.
Really with a serious turbo build or any for that matter you can't really go wrong with a smaller sized cam. I am now beginning to think and persue myself to the 224/228 .581/.588 114 LSA. I think this would work good and off boost power would be better than any of the bigger one's, esopecially down low. Its fairly close to many which ahve recommended me as well. I think if I got a custom one still it would be around a 228/228 or so. Either that or one of those big traditional splits. Like a gt2-3 for example but on a narrower LSA.
Ya you are right but thought that one of these would work good enough, lol
Really with a serious turbo build or any for that matter you can't really go wrong with a smaller sized cam. I am now beginning to think and persue myself to the 224/228 .581/.588 114 LSA. I think this would work good and off boost power would be better than any of the bigger one's, esopecially down low. Its fairly close to many which ahve recommended me as well. I think if I got a custom one still it would be around a 228/228 or so. Either that or one of those big traditional splits. Like a gt2-3 for example but on a narrower LSA.
Really with a serious turbo build or any for that matter you can't really go wrong with a smaller sized cam. I am now beginning to think and persue myself to the 224/228 .581/.588 114 LSA. I think this would work good and off boost power would be better than any of the bigger one's, esopecially down low. Its fairly close to many which ahve recommended me as well. I think if I got a custom one still it would be around a 228/228 or so. Either that or one of those big traditional splits. Like a gt2-3 for example but on a narrower LSA.
I ran it before and it was NASTY. QUICK spool, good off boost scoot and pulled like a freight train up top.
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that is exactly the cam camotions speced me, almost. mine is on a 114+4. similiar numbers on the duration and lift.
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I am still f***ed up over this, lol Don't know which way to go. Big or small? I don't really think I can go wrong with the 228/232 cam. Maybe I might jsut have to call up a sponsor, etc. I personally don't believe in reverse splits if thats what they are going to say. Again I'd take a straight split though.
The poll keeps changing, come on guys........... what do ya think?