427 Warhawk For Boost Setup?
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So cutting 77 lbs cost about $2000.....OUCH!!!! Man that really makes one ponder the purchase of a Warhawk. Is there any recent news of an Aluminum LSX block? I could see $1000 to save 77lbs (I imagine the Aluminum LSX will be less expensive then the Warhawk), but $2000!
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I love how you guys throw around the #'s 1200,1300, 1400 rwhp like its so easy, do you realize that that's about 1700+@the crank. And with a S/C at that, you must be useing a F3R..
Wont you guys look into using something that is proven to work and be very durable. The blocks weve been using,ERL performance LS2 superdeck. We ran it all last year over 100 passes with many in the 7's in a 3400lb.car(I'll let you figure the HP) They will probably be cheaper that the other options and still stay alum.
They are releassing a 6 head bolt ls2 this year which we will be testing. Results to come
Wont you guys look into using something that is proven to work and be very durable. The blocks weve been using,ERL performance LS2 superdeck. We ran it all last year over 100 passes with many in the 7's in a 3400lb.car(I'll let you figure the HP) They will probably be cheaper that the other options and still stay alum.
They are releassing a 6 head bolt ls2 this year which we will be testing. Results to come
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aRE YOU SERIOUS???? Have you been on a deserted Island or in a Cave somewhere???
Like he stated in his post you quoted....
I take it you didnt see any results from the LSX Race in Memphis and didnt look at his Sig..
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Im with ya Steve on the 1200-1400 rwhp thrown around to easy when not very many have done it........
Kyle
So cutting 77 lbs cost about $2000.....OUCH!!!! Man that really makes one ponder the purchase of a Warhawk. Is there any recent news of an Aluminum LSX block? I could see $1000 to save 77lbs (I imagine the Aluminum LSX will be less expensive then the Warhawk), but $2000!
I would totally welcome any cheaper alternatives to the Warhawk, as long as it will be strong enough for 1000 FWHP (just so I can sleep at night). I just don't see an LS1/2 block being any cheaper and just as strong at that power level. But I also haven't built or raced any LSx engines.
To make any LS1/2 block reliable to that HP level wouldn't it need to be resleeved and doweled (or billet) mains. Also, for FI I want the 6 bolt head option, that you just cannot get with a LS1/2 block.
To make any LS1/2 block reliable to that HP level wouldn't it need to be resleeved and doweled (or billet) mains. Also, for FI I want the 6 bolt head option, that you just cannot get with a LS1/2 block.
But I guess your wanting that power on pump, and assuming youd be running more then 20#'s on race fuel?
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oops, sorry. I was thinking the 114 lb difference in the LSX iron and the regular LSx aluminum.
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Hell of a nice block though, but so is that aluminum billet block someone makes.
if your looking for 1000 fwhp just go with the iron 6.0 block,only about 40 lbs heavier than the warhawk block,and has been run at that hp many times with no problems,if built properly and using quality aftermarket heads you will not have any head gasket issues at that power level.we are building one for Kyle right now that should make over 1500 fwhp and a 6.0 block-it already made over 1000rwhp with junk parts
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Can the 6.0L be bored to 4.125" to make a 427ci? If so why don't many do 427's with the 6.0L block?
if your looking for 1000 fwhp just go with the iron 6.0 block,only about 40 lbs heavier than the warhawk block,and has been run at that hp many times with no problems,if built properly and using quality aftermarket heads you will not have any head gasket issues at that power level.we are building one for Kyle right now that should make over 1500 fwhp and a 6.0 block-it already made over 1000rwhp with junk parts
Unless Im thinking of something different.
you cant bore a 6.0 to 4.125,but you can put in a 4.25 stroke crank to make 427ci but i dont recommend this for a fi application.a 408 will make 1000fwhp with no problems
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i know a bit about sleaved blocks, but i always thought the superdeck stuff used a spacer plate to give the extra hight.
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Okay guys I am getting VERY different costs for a standard deck Warhawk Block! Does anyone know prices first hand?
For a standard deck block (No special covers or bolt kits)...
World..............................$4600
Summit............................$4379
Pace Performance..............$3799
Racing Junk (random shop)..$3695 w/free shipping
SDPC...............................$5000+ (I just called them to try and get a long block quote and they said they are losing money selling for any thing less)
I'm just VERY confused because SDPC is usually one of the best priced shops!
For a standard deck block (No special covers or bolt kits)...
World..............................$4600
Summit............................$4379
Pace Performance..............$3799
Racing Junk (random shop)..$3695 w/free shipping
SDPC...............................$5000+ (I just called them to try and get a long block quote and they said they are losing money selling for any thing less)
I'm just VERY confused because SDPC is usually one of the best priced shops!
Okay guys I am getting VERY different costs for a standard deck Warhawk Block! Does anyone know prices first hand?
For a standard deck block (No special covers or bolt kits)...
World..............................$4600
Summit............................$4379
Pace Performance..............$3799
Racing Junk (random shop)..$3695 w/free shipping
SDPC...............................$5000+ (I just called them to try and get a long block quote and they said they are losing money selling for any thing less)
I'm just VERY confused because SDPC is usually one of the best priced shops!
For a standard deck block (No special covers or bolt kits)...
World..............................$4600
Summit............................$4379
Pace Performance..............$3799
Racing Junk (random shop)..$3695 w/free shipping
SDPC...............................$5000+ (I just called them to try and get a long block quote and they said they are losing money selling for any thing less)
I'm just VERY confused because SDPC is usually one of the best priced shops!
You might consider talking with Richard over at WCCH (sponsor-->), he is doing us up 2 sets of allpro LSW's (ls7) for warhawk motors. We are very happy with the last set we had purchased from him, time frame and quality.
Depending on the type of SC (positive or centrif) will let you know what CR you can run safely. Also the step-up and avalible pulleys is going to let you know your max engine RPM.
The above variables are all key factors in running on 93oct fuel.
Depending on the type of SC (positive or centrif) will let you know what CR you can run safely. Also the step-up and avalible pulleys is going to let you know your max engine RPM.
The above variables are all key factors in running on 93oct fuel.
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Anyone that has built a Warhawk this question is for you.....
What is the difference between the Warhawk valley cover and an LS1 cover? I am wanting to put a 2.8L Kenne Bell on a Warhawk, but the Kenne Bell kit comes with a LS1 style valley cover (with the mounting holes chamfered to flush mount the bolts). Can the Warhawk mounting holes be chamfered and a flat head bolts be used?
Is there any thing else on the Warhawk cover that may hinder the Kenne Bell from mounting correctly?
What is the difference between the Warhawk valley cover and an LS1 cover? I am wanting to put a 2.8L Kenne Bell on a Warhawk, but the Kenne Bell kit comes with a LS1 style valley cover (with the mounting holes chamfered to flush mount the bolts). Can the Warhawk mounting holes be chamfered and a flat head bolts be used?
Is there any thing else on the Warhawk cover that may hinder the Kenne Bell from mounting correctly?
