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Old Mar 9, 2008 | 11:16 PM
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alright what is all this about long tube headers are they no good for a turbo application?
Old Mar 9, 2008 | 11:29 PM
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mine is spooled by 3,000

dunno what fiero is talking about.
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Originally Posted by ninetres
Did you think installing a turbo kit is as simple as installing a lid? If you aren't ready to spend $1k more than the cheapest turbo kit on the market......Get the F%$@ out of the FI section and go buy a whistle tip exhaust pipe.
I guess I expected a kit to come complete when it arrived at my doorstep, that way I didn't have to do it all myself. I'm fully capable, look at my website, there is no kit about what's on my Fiero. But I bought a kit so that I wouldn't have to. I was less than impressed. A 5.7l V8 with 10psi should be tapping on 11s, not getting walked by a high 12 second Corvette.

If you have stock manifolds (wrapped) and a COMPLETELY wrapped hot-side, and STILL had lag issues, then you must have accidentally installed the kit on your 3.4l Fiero. I have a friend with a rear mount t76gts (kinda big for a rearmount), 346ci, wrapped LONGTUBES, and a wrapped hotside, and he sees 15lbs by 3800rpms.
So my Fiero has lag or timing issues? I engineered this entire build to minimalize lag and timing issues. Just because I will make power to 7,000, doesn't mean I won't have boost at the crack of the throttle. But that's why my kit isn't like an STS. You're all fooled into believing that that is just a downside of having a turbo. It isn't. It's just a downside of having a poorly engineered kit.

And roots super-chargers do suck. In fact, my friend (and fabricator) just did some tuning on his cobra. It only made 507hp/479ft to the tires on Whipple's own dyno. He has a cold air intake, cut-outs, and ported STOCK EATON blower. What a turd. 3 mods and hello bottom 11s.....wait, he already went 11.60 before he ported the blower.
500? That's it? A single mod to a Cobra will make 600. Through the stock exhaust.

It is a shame that some members might read your posts and actually think there is truth to them.
Go drive an OFI car. You'll be amazed.
Old Mar 9, 2008 | 11:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Blackbird
mine is spooled by 3,000

dunno what fiero is talking about.
It is quite clear you do not know the definition of lag.
Old Mar 10, 2008 | 12:10 AM
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[QUOTE=FieroZ34;8889830]I guess I expected a kit to come complete when it arrived at my doorstep, that way I didn't have to do it all myself. I'm fully capable, look at my website, there is no kit about what's on my Fiero. But I bought a kit so that I wouldn't have to. I was less than impressed. A 5.7l V8 with 10psi should be tapping on 11s, not getting walked by a high 12 second Corvette.


my car at 9lbs of boost ran a 11.6 so it is obvious to us all that the common denomenator on your set up is YOU!!! i have full boost by 3200 rpm right where the converter flashes, its in the set up for any car, just like your fiero.
you can hate all you want but the facts are rear mount cars work, they are here to stay and nothing you say will change that. get over it
Old Mar 10, 2008 | 12:12 AM
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Originally Posted by FieroZ34
500? That's it? A single mod to a Cobra will make 600. Through the stock exhaust.

Go drive an OFI car. You'll be amazed.
What mod gives a cobra 600 wheel besides nitrous? Show me. My friend is a VERY well respected member of SVTperformance and many people even doubt his 500 wheel numbers, let alone your single 600 hp mod. My buddy I mentioned was top of his class at Wyo-tech, engineered my turbo kit as well as other members and now sells them across the country. He has about a $1,000 in mods and makes a simple, safe 500 wheel for his daily driver. Oh yea, I forgot to mention, he has nitrous too, and in fact sells his custom dual bottle mounts for the spare tire well. He only sells a few dozen a year.

You are such a tool, TRUST me you don't want me to point him to this thread (he is a member here too), because you will get sooooo school in turbo and engine theory its not even funny. Look at how many members with 10 and 11 second cars are in this thread bashing you. I bet you are like 19yrs old.

And why should I drive an OFI car? My own 700+ wheel Hp car is just fine with me, plus it sees full boost if I sneeze on the throttle.
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Originally Posted by smoke20
my car at 9lbs of boost ran a 11.6 so it is obvious to us all that the common denomenator on your set up is YOU!!! i have full boost by 3200 rpm right where the converter flashes, its in the set up for any car, just like your fiero.
you can hate all you want but the facts are rear mount cars work, they are here to stay and nothing you say will change that. get over it
11.6, with a forged H/C/I 347? Ouch, I'd get a refund if I were you.

What converter are you talking about? Because nothing like that happens at 3200rpm on my Fiero.

They work, just not well.
Old Mar 10, 2008 | 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by FieroZ34
11.6, with a forged H/C/I 347? Ouch, I'd get a refund if I were you.

What converter are you talking about? Because nothing like that happens at 3200rpm on my Fiero.

They work, just not well.

let me give you the rest of the story seeing how you need specifics.

DA 2500 --- 2.1 60ft cant launch in boost due to no two step yet
now with your all nowing brain you can see the car is probably a low 11 -high 10 car with the correct set up to launch, not the kits fault, i havent bought the items to launch it with. also for your brain to chew on a built 347 doesnt produce more power actually it makes less power due to the low compression, i only run 9 lbs until i can upgrade the fuel system to handle the 12-15 psi plan on running. sweet dreams cupcake.
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Old Mar 10, 2008 | 05:15 PM
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Rear mounts don't work and neither do blow through carb setups.
Old Mar 10, 2008 | 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by FieroZ34
So properly installed means redoing the entire kit? It should come out of the box "proper," not I have to spend $1000 to get it to spool decent. And FWIW, my exhaust was wrapped. The lag still sucked.

Roots superchargers are simply amazing. That's why every Cobra owner's 3rd mod is replacing it.
haha, very true, but it now is the turbo scene for those cars, I don't mean to jack the thread, but hardened valves and dual springs, why, thought these engines were amazing. Im not trying to be a smartass, but it sounds like I can bolt a turbo on a Stang and be much cheaper. I really wanted an LS1 to boost.
Old Mar 10, 2008 | 07:05 PM
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This complete kit stuff you keep bringing up is bullshit, when you bought the kit you should have known every single piece that comes in the kit... And yes, it is enough, minus injectors and fuel pump to work. But to their defense it will run on stock fuel pumps and sometimes even on stock injectors, definitely not recommended, but at the lowest boost levels it will work.

Of course it can be made better, find me an off the shelf kit of any variety that you cant add something here or there to make better. Sure the STS setup isn't perfect, but they don't advertise it as something its not. I think your car had something wrong with it, could be a million things, but the vast majority of us have working setups.
Old Mar 10, 2008 | 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by quic46
haha, very true, but it now is the turbo scene for those cars, I don't mean to jack the thread, but hardened valves and dual springs, why, thought these engines were amazing. Im not trying to be a smartass, but it sounds like I can bolt a turbo on a Stang and be much cheaper. I really wanted an LS1 to boost.
Sure, it will be cheaper - but slower too.

Making a blanket statement saying "rear mounts suck" is pretty easy to do without backing it up.

Do rear mounts suck? Of course not. They add horsepower. Is it going to be as effective as a huge front mount single on a race car? Well of course not.

Can they still make a ****-ton of power and make your sled move out pretty quickly? Yep.

If your Lt1 POS got waxed by a stock LS1 vette I'd say it's either time to admit you fucked something up or look into the DRIVER MOD.
Old Mar 10, 2008 | 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Oso SS
If your Lt1 POS got waxed by a stock LS1 vette I'd say it's either time to admit you fucked something up or look into the DRIVER MOD.
LMAO
Old Mar 10, 2008 | 10:51 PM
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FieroZ34 I banned you once for trolling up threads and warned you that if you returned to your old ways, that the next ban would be permanent, lata.

Locking this one too, this topic has been covered many times before

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FieroZ34 I banned you once for trolling up threads and warned you that if you returned to your old ways, that the next ban would be permanent, lata.
Jer's a pimp!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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