Hmmm.... The looks and power of a C6 Z in the rear view of 800 hp F body? Priceless But I think the C6 will pull more AZZ x). Honestly just ask your self what are you going to do with the C6 Z you said you will be broke after buying it. I bet if you find a dam good deal buy it and put a procharger on it.

 

Well if I got the ZO6 I would put full bolt ons and maybe a good cam but thats it. I could not afford FI on it. BTW the camaro is and still will be a 6spd street car if I do FI. I just put FIKSE FM5 18x8.5 frt , 18x12 rear w/345's. What kind of power do bolt on C6 ZO6 put down and what kind of cam only w/ bolt ons put down?

 

I saw a dealership tagged 07 z06 at vengeance racing on the dyno put down stock with NO tuning around 440...

 

Does the Z have any weak points if I started modding it? Like the f body had the 10 bolt

 

Given the choice, I'd do the ZO6 too. Warranty, reliability..... yep, those are big pluses! Car payment would suck.....but gotta pay to play.

BTW, you can always mod the ZO6 if it's not ast enough.

Just my $0.02

 

I orignally was going to get a Z06 and after the money pit I've produced I wish even more that I did. Initially I didn't get a Z06 for the cost but now that I've spent as much money as I have I really wish I would of. My F-Body will haul *** after its done but not come close to all the positives already mentioned of the Z. Only draw back is the payment, I hate them but in the end it would probably end up close to the same. The 850rwhp will be allot more maintenance, etc.

 

Go with the ZO6. If I could go back to 2005 when I first got into the FI game I would get a brand new Viper and be done with it. Its less of a headache, no car downtime, no high profile shop not doing the work you told them to, etc, etc.

Go with the C6 Z06 and enjoy the warranty.

 

Stock Z's usually put down about 450 at the wheels. Bolt on Z's can hit 500~550 depending on how extreme ya go...

The stock half shafts are weak. Solution is to get a pair of C5 half shafts...

 

x2 billion.

I have a friend with one and I would take it in a heartbeat over mine, no matter what the HP level.

 

If you buy the C6 Z06 you'll have a nice car.....but you're gonna get pretty pissed off the first time you get your *** whipped by a modded F-Body or a slightly modded C6 Z06. Get the 850 RWHP F-Body or you will regret it.

But on the other hand, for about $2,500-$3,000 in mods you can make your C6Z06 put down over 600 RWHP, which is pretty nice.

Its the only thing my friend doesn't like about his C6 Z06, its slow compared to the hundreds of modded cars in his area, he gets walked all the time. But he has head porting/cam change/piston change/exhaust upgrade and a 200 shot in the works....so.....he'll be good to go again soon. He'll have over 800 RWHP on tap.

 

hell i wish i had the option to choose between those two setups, let alone the credit. cam only and bolt on cars plus piston packages are about 5-6k from LG if your in that area and then add a nice shot with a stand alone tank and your right back to that nice 700-800rw mark in a 3000lb car. downside to that is it wont have the warranty, but then again you'll stop 99% of cars on the road

 

Shoot, a stock C6Z will already beat about 98% of the cars on the road, is 6k and a voided warranty worth that extra 1% to you? There will always be someone faster no matter what...

 

chevy chad, fixed

 

 

Your leaving out a fuel system, tuning, suspension, gauges the list goes on and on so everyone is right about the money. It could probibly be done if he was doing the work, but if not it can't be done.

 

I'm currently building a setup around your goals. I'm shooting for 850rwhp AND I'm building the car to be able to handle it. I don't see you getting everything you need to make the car reliable with 20k. I've got well over 30k in mine and there are still a few things I need...like a new trans.

People are always linking stuff and saying you can get it for that price. Once you check into things there are almost always other parts you will have to buy to make said item work. The final price that you have paid after you have it in the car will be much higher than what people have listed. A good rule for me has been to take what you think it is going to cost an double it.

1000rwhp turbo kit -3500$...all said and done? Right, I've probaly got 9500$ in my procharger stuff.

6700$ 427 engine...are you planning on putting nice heads, cam, upgraded timming chain, oil pump ect in that engine? My shortblock started off at 4200$ After I upgraded to ARP main studs, ARP head studs, got the better crank, rods, rings ect that 4200$ shotblock ended up being 6000$ If you are anything like me you will want some nice heads...I went with AFR's. The invoice for my heads/cam was 3100$. Add timming chain, high volume oil pump ect ect and I've got around 10k in the engine.

600$ fuel system? I must be stupid. I've got over twice that much in mine.
1600$ for a rear end? I've probaly got 2400$ in mine.

Point is it seems like the people that haven't done this before are the ones that come up with the parts list showing how much each part cost. If you cheep out on everything, do all the work yourself and buy most of the stuff used you MIGHT get it done for 20k. It would take a long time to hunt down the good deals on everything then you would have to piece together the missing parts.

Comming from someone that is currently doing a build like you are thinking about, I say get the C6 Z06. I'll probably have 40k in my build by the time I'm done. That is NOT including the car itself which was 23k back in 02. I would much rather have a lightly modded C6 Z.

 

Labor, tuning, converter, etc.? Odds and ends are going to cost alot more than $1000.00, trust me.

 

I hate car payments so I personally would not do it but a C6 Z06 is quite the car so its really up to whether you are willing to sacrifice the car you have built yourself (or with the help of others) for a new Z06 and a carpayment. Honestly, I would say stay with the 98 SS and build it up. Also, are you stuck on FI? If not why not just take your current engine and spray the hell out of it? Toss on a nice plate kit or a direct port system for approx $1500, make sure your fuel system is up to par to handle a 200 shot, and have approx a 700 rwhp car when needed. FI is great but N20 can be fun as well.

 

Every post you make it becomes more clear you have never built an 800rwhp 4th gen LS1. Keep dreaming if you think it is done for 15k.

 

Z06 all day man...can't believe ur asking this question