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Old Aug 24, 2008 | 11:40 PM
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Default Looking to Procharge my Cammed 346

Somewhat new to F/I, need some pointers.

I have a stock cammed 346, and wanting forced induction.


Futral F14 cam 232"/234" .598 "/.598" 112LSA
Patriot dual Gold Extreme valve springs
Comp cams Chrome Moly Pushrods 7.400 (Stock Length)
Futral motorsports ported LS6 oil pump
LS2 timing Chain
90mm FAST intake manifold
90mm Nick Williams Throttle Body
30lb SVO injectors
Mac Mid Length Headers
Off road ypipe


Can I safely go with a D1SC(or P1SC) with this cam with STOCK 853 heads? I can go with some 6.0L LQ4 heads.

What are my options to retain my stock 346?

I was thinking of STS but would be alot of Lag with the M6 and bad ground clearance aswell.

APS is alot of fabbing for my taste and Procharger looks like the easiest and best solution.

HELP!
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Old Aug 24, 2008 | 11:46 PM
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Your going to need bigger injectors probably 45lbs or more. You will also need to upgrade your fuel pump if you havent already. I have a d1sc on stock heads. I am planning on building a 6.0L 370 here soon, I may throw my 317 heads on in the mean time while I am building the motor. Good luck....
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Old Aug 24, 2008 | 11:49 PM
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Thinking the same thing.. Bigger injectors and beefing up fuel delivery.. Let us know which route you decide on..
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How much boost can i have on a 232/234 598 598 112 Cammed Motor with Stock 853 heads?

8 lbs?
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Old Aug 24, 2008 | 11:53 PM
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i think the cam might be an issue. you might need a little more on the exhaust end. I know EPP makes a blower cam that is a 232/240. they have made some pretty impressive numbers with that cam too.
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dammit. lol.
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Old Aug 24, 2008 | 11:55 PM
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Originally Posted by cookba
i think the cam might be an issue. you might need a little more on the exhaust end. I know EPP makes a blower cam that is a 232/240. they have made some pretty impressive numbers with that cam too.
Thats the Cam I have in my car, sounds pretty good and made good power.
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I also like the Magnacharger Roots blower, they sound sick in my opinion.
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I also like the Magnacharger Roots blower, they sound sick in my opinion.
Yeah that an the nearly instant torque.
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is there anyone else that makes a roots type blower for an Fbody LS1
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Old Aug 25, 2008 | 03:38 AM
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check out www.mtiracing.com, they have a complete kit...i believe its around 7900 installed and that includes EVERYTHING, had a chance to ride in the car, it was on 01 m6SS stock with the only mod being a magnaflow catback and the magnusson supercharger i think they running 7psi or so and it put down 470ish rwhp
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Old Aug 25, 2008 | 04:55 AM
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http://www.exoticperformanceplus.com....html?item=798

Check out this complete ATI ProCharger D-1SC kit that we offer, which includes everything that you need. Bob
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I dont see the duration on the cam being the problem......
The LSA being a 112 might bleed of a lil boost vice a cam on a 114 lsa....

A Procharger kit u order from Bob or who ever will be pullied for 8 lbs for a ""Stock"" car.
You will see less boost with your fast 90 and exhaust then a stock car would because of the less restrictions in your motor.
If you see 6 psi but make 500 rwhp i wouldnt worry about the #..... all boost is, is a restriction to flow...... a #. See what kind of power it makes and go from there.

Most have said fuel already..... a good intank pump and 42-50# injectors...
You might just go with the 60#ers since they idle so well, give u room to grow if u want and most of the time are around the same price as the smaller injectors.

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I dont see the duration on the cam being the problem......
The LSA being a 112 might bleed of a lil boost vice a cam on a 114 lsa....

A Procharger kit u order from Bob or who ever will be pullied for 8 lbs for a ""Stock"" car.
You will see less boost with your fast 90 and exhaust then a stock car would because of the less restrictions in your motor.
If you see 6 psi but make 500 rwhp i wouldnt worry about the #..... all boost is, is a restriction to flow...... a #. See what kind of power it makes and go from there.

Most have said fuel already..... a good intank pump and 42-50# injectors...
You might just go with the 60#ers since they idle so well, give u room to grow if u want and most of the time are around the same price as the smaller injectors.

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Wrong!!! lol

We size the blower pulley based on the customer's combination, elevation and how much boost they want to make. The cam, heads, cubic inch, exhaust etc are all taken into account. Bob
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Originally Posted by Exotic Performance Plus
Wrong!!! lol

We size the blower pulley based on the customer's combination, elevation and how much boost they want to make. The cam, heads, cubic inch, exhaust etc are all taken into account. Bob


I know if they Call U they will be given the correct pulley for 8 psi or what ever boost they want with there current mods....................... I was saying there kit ordered from Procharger or another shop........
I know for a fact that in the past Procharger had no clue what boost you would see with mods......... You forget .... I had a procharger setup exactly like KP before i went Turbo.
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Originally Posted by NA$TY-TA
I know if they Call U they will be given the correct pulley for 8 psi or what ever boost they want with there current mods....................... I was saying there kit ordered from Procharger or another shop........
I know for a fact that in the past Procharger had no clue what boost you would see with mods......... You forget .... I had a procharger setup exactly like KP before i went Turbo.
i did not know that?
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Originally Posted by Exotic Performance Plus
Wrong!!! lol

We size the blower pulley based on the customer's combination, elevation and how much boost they want to make. The cam, heads, cubic inch, exhaust etc are all taken into account. Bob
So lets say my LSA will leak some boost, that mean I can run a D1SC made made for 10-12# becuase IM gonna lose some, and would settle around a good 8# of boost with my mods
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You know if you just wanted to know something all you had to do was ask me I am sure you can still dig up my number LOL! You might be giving up a few ponies with the cam, but you can still make great power with it there have been few guys go over 600 with a P1SC and the GM ASA cam witch is on a 110 if I am not mistaken, yeah there are better cams for sure but it wont kill you by any means. HP I would try to stay in the 500-550 range on your stock bottom end probably will be around 8lbs based on past setups I helped people on in the past. And I am with Kyle go with the 60# injectors and atleast a Racetronix intank setup. As far as the blower the SC is definately the easiest to bolt on and make work, but it isn't perfect so get ready to play with a few things such as the cooling system. The roots styles that were listed do work, but placement of some of the parts makes them less efficient on our cars for sure, but will work for you I don't think you will get to 500 rwhp as easy for sure. Do a search and see what a few other have had to deal with etc... Good Luck.
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Ill call you Jeff when I get the money ha ha. Talking with mortgage companies, so priorities first!

Ill save your number!
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not to steal this thread, but going back to the boost number I know many have said that you don't want to go over eight pounds. My current 4.25 inch pulley makes 5.5 lbs with my ls6 heads and a cam that is very similar to the one in question here............... So does that mean that I could go to a pulley that would make 8 lbs

I am making 440 on a mustang dyno with the converter unlocked right now
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