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Old Sep 14, 2008 | 08:50 PM
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here is what i have planned out for now it will be a while before i start buying but i wanted to know everyones take on what i have in mind for this project


i have not found a car yet but i think im gonna pick up a v6 camaro or mustang that i can find on ebay or craigslist for cheap


anyway here's what i have in mind so far(keep in mind i plan to do all this for less than 4000)

2002 L59 with 79k for 375
Zo6 cam 117
50# injectors 300
LS6 valve springs 55
t-70 600 sorry its small
PCM 90 (will get dyno tuned)
snow H2O/METH kit 275
total so far - 1807
should i keep the truck manifold or switch to an LS2
what do i have to do to bolt a TH350 up to it
how big of converter do i need for this cam
where can i get some good flanges to build my own headers (or a kit)
what BOV and wastegate should i use and how big
how much boost can this combo handle safely i planned on running around 15lbs
i plan on doing a dyno tune when its all done

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Old Sep 14, 2008 | 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by nastychevelle
here is what i have planned out for now it will be a while before i start buying but i wanted to know everyones take on what i have in mind for this project


i have not found a car yet but i think im gonna pick up a v6 camaro or mustang that i can find on ebay or craigslist for cheap


anyway here's what i have in mind so far(keep in mind i plan to do all this for less than 4000)

2002 L59 with 79k for 375
vision motorworks 80mm throttle body 115
Zo6 cam 117
LS7 high rev lifters 140
LS6 valve springs 55
t-70 600 sorry its small
PCM 90
snow H2O/METH kit 275
total so far - 1762
should i keep the truck manifold or switch to an LS2
what do i have to do to bolt a TH350 up to it
how big of converter do i need for this cam
where can i get some good flanges to build my own headers (or a kit)
what BOV and wastegate should i use and how big
how much boost can this combo handle safely i plan on running around 15lbs
i plan on doing a dyno tune when its all done
Do a search for a 5.3 turbo fairmont. Whole car (sameish situation) for around 2k
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Old Sep 15, 2008 | 09:13 AM
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Ditch this: vision motorworks 80mm throttle body 115

Match the outlet on the turbo's compressor. The air is being compressed and forced through the throttle body, whereas being pulled in by the engine, shrinking the cross sectional area needed to avoid choke flow.
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Ditch this: vision motorworks 80mm throttle body 115

Match the outlet on the turbo's compressor. The air is being compressed and forced through the throttle body, whereas being pulled in by the engine, shrinking the cross sectional area needed to avoid choke flow.
can you explain? i dont get it....

and slow67 i searched but couldnt find it could you link it please?
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Originally Posted by nastychevelle
can you explain? i dont get it....

and slow67 i searched but couldnt find it could you link it please?
https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthrea...fairmont+turbo

https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthrea...372&highlight=

https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthrea...225&highlight=

https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthrea...841&highlight=

https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthrea...959&highlight=
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Old Sep 16, 2008 | 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by nastychevelle
can you explain? i dont get it....

and slow67 i searched but couldnt find it could you link it please?
Sure can,

Think of an engine as an air pump. To get air in, in has to suck against every component in the intake (intake manifold, throttle body/blade, air filter). The main reason why a larger throttle body on an NA engine boosts power is because it lowers the restrictions, allowing more air to get in, making more power.

When forcing air, any type of pumping loss is not present any more. The air is being forced through the intake system and into the chamber. The general rule of thumb on a turbo car is to make your intake piping and throttle body equal or greater to what the outlet on the turbo compressor is.

There is only so much air you can flow through an opening before a restriction becomes present, that point is known as choke flow. If I recall correctly, its roughly mach 1.
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Sure can,

Think of an engine as an air pump. To get air in, in has to suck against every component in the intake (intake manifold, throttle body/blade, air filter). The main reason why a larger throttle body on an NA engine boosts power is because it lowers the restrictions, allowing more air to get in, making more power.

When forcing air, any type of pumping loss is not present any more. The air is being forced through the intake system and into the chamber. The general rule of thumb on a turbo car is to make your intake piping and throttle body equal or greater to what the outlet on the turbo compressor is.

There is only so much air you can flow through an opening before a restriction becomes present, that point is known as choke flow. If I recall correctly, its roughly mach 1.
ok correct me if im wrong cause im trying to figure out what your saying (noob when it comes to this) so your saying ditch the TB its a waste? or are you saying go bigger?

thanks slow67

still need my questions answered

should i keep the truck manifold or switch to an LS2
what do i have to do to bolt a TH350 up to it
how big of converter do i need for this cam
where can i get some good flanges to build my own headers (or a kit)
what BOV and wastegate should i use and how big
how much boost can this combo handle safely i planned on running around 15lbs
i plan on doing a dyno tune when its all done
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ok correct me if im wrong cause im trying to figure out what your saying (noob when it comes to this) so your saying ditch the TB its a waste? or are you saying go bigger?

Go smaller - unless the the piping from the turbo to the intake is 80mm.
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like stock small or like ported small?
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Old Sep 16, 2008 | 09:10 PM
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Why the high rev lifters? how high are you plannig to spin? over 6500? you'll need arp rod bolts.

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Why the high rev lifters? how high are you plannig to spin? over 6500? you'll need arp rod bolts.

Doug
do i not need them? i was under the impression that i had to change lifters when i changed the cam
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i can hook you up with some nice parts that are proven look at the link in the thread and sorry for the hijack
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do i not need them? i was under the impression that i had to change lifters when i changed the cam
Not on roller cams. Parish used a completely stock longblock, minus cam and springs and injetors. He used the truck intake, rod bolts, etc, etc.

The truck intake is supposed to flow as good as an ls6 intake (which is better than an LS2, proven to over 1000hp).

The TH350 will bolt up, minus 1 bolt (don't even worry about it) all you need is a flexplate and a spacer from GM. (very similar to this thread https://ls1tech.com/forums/automatic-transmission/155531-going-th400-special-parts-my-ass.html)

Converter - what are your goals? street or strip?

As far as flanges and stuff, check out the sticky in this section on Truck manifolds (probably came with your longblock).

BOV and Wastegate - it depends on who you talk too....some say go cheap with ebay, and some say go with expensive stuff....

do a search on "5.3 turbo" and you will find lots of builds, one of em dynoed at 717rwhp thru an auto!!!
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Old Sep 17, 2008 | 06:58 AM
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Originally Posted by slow67
Not on roller cams. Parish used a completely stock longblock, minus cam and springs and injetors. He used the truck intake, rod bolts, etc, etc.

The truck intake is supposed to flow as good as an ls6 intake (which is better than an LS2, proven to over 1000hp).

The TH350 will bolt up, minus 1 bolt (don't even worry about it) all you need is a flexplate and a spacer from GM. (very similar to this thread https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=155531)

Converter - what are your goals? street or strip?

As far as flanges and stuff, check out the sticky in this section on Truck manifolds (probably came with your longblock).

BOV and Wastegate - it depends on who you talk too....some say go cheap with ebay, and some say go with expensive stuff....

do a search on "5.3 turbo" and you will find lots of builds, one of em dynoed at 717rwhp thru an auto!!!

do you have the part# for the spacer and flexplate?

and as for converter i plan on being a street car but taking ti to the strip on friday nigts aswell as some test and tunes

as for BOV and WG i think im just gonna find one in the middle maybe like a tial or something


thanks for your help
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For PT numbers, read this thread https://ls1tech.com/forums/automatic-transmission/197642-what-would-you-like-see-addressed-th400-faq.html

As for converter, your best bet is to call a reputable converter company. Try to find one that has experience with turbos, as they need to be loose on the bottom, but couple really well on the big end.
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Originally Posted by nastychevelle
like stock small or like ported small?

Id save the money and leave it stock.
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alright i will get a good converter and leave my TB stock
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i can hook you up with some nice parts that are proven look at the link in the thread and sorry for the hijack
sorry but i dont plan on ordering the stuff till around march but if you have anything left by then i might hit you up
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are 50# injectors to big?
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are 50# injectors to big?
Might as well go to 60s.
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