Forced Induction Superchargers | Turbochargers | Intercoolers

GAINS WITH SWAPPING OUT MY CURRENT CAM??

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Sep 10, 2003 | 03:51 AM
  #21  
phenyxTA's Avatar
Launching!
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 286
Likes: 0
From: St. Louis
Default Re: GAINS WITH SWAPPING OUT MY CURRENT CAM??

I'm running the R1 in a stock shortblock car with just mild headwork, and stock valves. I gained 57rwhp compared to the T1. I would think that a bigger cube motor would gain even more from a bigger duration cam. The car pulls hard all the way to 7000rpm which is where I have the rev limiter set. Any higher would pretty much be suicide on a stock shortblock.
Reply
Old Sep 10, 2003 | 08:24 AM
  #22  
MEAN LT1's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 1,143
Likes: 0
From: jacksonville,FL
Default Re: GAINS WITH SWAPPING OUT MY CURRENT CAM??

Look at some of the blower/n20 cams some of the bigger tuner compnies are using. I know im an lt1 and your cam profilw iwll be different from mine but it wont look too much different. I have a 224/236 cam on 114lsa. I have about 3* of overlap on my cam which inst a whole lot but it will do. Im sure some of the tuners will help you out. I personally like thunderracing.
Reply
Old Sep 10, 2003 | 10:30 AM
  #23  
CHRISPY's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 10,341
Likes: 1
Default Re: GAINS WITH SWAPPING OUT MY CURRENT CAM??

Overlap is more a function of LSA than duration split between intake and exhaust.

The added exhaust duration is necessary as the intake charge is forced. (positive pressure) The exahust side has to have more duration than an NA grind to help evacuate all the gases.

You will lose a bit of boost from efficiency increases but make much more power. Boost is only a measure of restriction not HP.

With 114LSA your overlap will be fine. With the 236/244 split duration you will be maximizing the intake and exhaust valve opening/closing points for max power between 4000-7000rpm.

If run too narrow an LSA you can run the risk of pushing the combustion charge out by the exhaust valve or worse into the header. We are talking pretty narrow LSA's though 109-110 etc.

Cheers,
Chris
Reply
Old Sep 10, 2003 | 12:32 PM
  #24  
BIGBOS's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Senior Member
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 11,603
Likes: 0
From: Chi-Town, IL
Default Re: GAINS WITH SWAPPING OUT MY CURRENT CAM??

So I've got two choices I've come up with...

236/244 .565/.575 114lsa with advance ground in

or

230/240 .560/.570 114lsa


What to do, what to do....
Reply
Old Sep 10, 2003 | 12:51 PM
  #25  
MEAN LT1's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 1,143
Likes: 0
From: jacksonville,FL
Default Re: GAINS WITH SWAPPING OUT MY CURRENT CAM??

So I've got two choices I've come up with...

236/244 .565/.575 114lsa with advance ground in

or

230/240 .560/.570 114lsa


What to do, what to do....
I think both of these cams will work good for you but I would personlly choose the 236/244 on a 114. Speed inc had a good article on cam swaps when they were building there 1le ss. They went from a cam simaler to the 236/244 on 114 to almost the same grind on a 117 and gain like 5-7psi of boost
Reply
Old Sep 10, 2003 | 12:53 PM
  #26  
BIGBOS's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Senior Member
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 11,603
Likes: 0
From: Chi-Town, IL
Default Re: GAINS WITH SWAPPING OUT MY CURRENT CAM??

The Speed cam I posted above, they took out their 244 cam, and put in the

226/234 .598/.599 117lsa cam

Would I be better off running this cam....

117 will want to rev high, would I be better off running this cam on a 114lsa?
Reply
Old Sep 10, 2003 | 12:59 PM
  #27  
CHRISPY's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 10,341
Likes: 1
Default Re: GAINS WITH SWAPPING OUT MY CURRENT CAM??

You could compromise and go 232/242 on 114LSA
Reply
Old Sep 10, 2003 | 01:00 PM
  #28  
CHRISPY's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 10,341
Likes: 1
Default Re: GAINS WITH SWAPPING OUT MY CURRENT CAM??

I would not run that 117LSA cam.

Cheers,
Chris
Reply
LS1 Tech Stories

The Best V8 Stories One Small Block at Time

story-0

Topdon ONE vs. Artidiag 800 BT2: Which is the Diagnostic Tablet For You?

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-1

Gas Monkey Built a 6-Wheel Ferrari Testarossa With a Corvette LT4 Engine

 Verdad Gallardo
story-2

7 Most Reliable High-Performance Engines GM Has Ever Built

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-5

Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-7

Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

 
story-8

Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

 Verdad Gallardo
story-9

Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Sep 10, 2003 | 01:02 PM
  #29  
BIGBOS's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Senior Member
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 11,603
Likes: 0
From: Chi-Town, IL
Default Re: GAINS WITH SWAPPING OUT MY CURRENT CAM??

Yea, I don't plan on 117lsa, thats way too high in the powerband for what I want to do....

But they saw GAINS removing the larger 244 cam and putting in the 226/234 cam...

I want to get the most I can get out of my setup at the current amount of boost....
Reply
Old Sep 10, 2003 | 01:38 PM
  #30  
BIGBOS's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Senior Member
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 11,603
Likes: 0
From: Chi-Town, IL
Default Re: GAINS WITH SWAPPING OUT MY CURRENT CAM??

TTT
Reply
Old Sep 10, 2003 | 02:18 PM
  #31  
Pro Stock John's Avatar
LS1Tech Co-Founder
20 Year Member
Community Influencer
iTrader: (34)
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 45,353
Likes: 1,786
From: Chicago, IL
Default Re: GAINS WITH SWAPPING OUT MY CURRENT CAM??

You might want to revisit this with Speed Inc, I recall them picking up HP when they went to the 226/234/117 cam.

I'm running a 230/237/115 +2 cam for my smaller bore motor.
Reply
Old Sep 11, 2003 | 01:12 AM
  #32  
BIGBOS's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Senior Member
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 11,603
Likes: 0
From: Chi-Town, IL
Default Re: GAINS WITH SWAPPING OUT MY CURRENT CAM??

Yea, I'm thinking I might do that cam, its had success in other cars as well...
Reply
Old Sep 11, 2003 | 12:54 PM
  #33  
BIGBOS's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Senior Member
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 11,603
Likes: 0
From: Chi-Town, IL
Default Re: GAINS WITH SWAPPING OUT MY CURRENT CAM??

TTT on this....

It looks like I might just be tuning the car with the 214/218 cam, and seeing what I can get out of that on a 100oct. tune.....at 12psi
Reply
Old Sep 12, 2003 | 07:28 PM
  #34  
mike m's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 1,101
Likes: 0
From: Las Vegas
Default Re: GAINS WITH SWAPPING OUT MY CURRENT CAM??

i too am looking into a different camshaft, i am only a 346 though, but i have heard of a 236-240 in the 570 lift are on a 116 making some serious power. if anyone has a comp cams catalog the specs are in there.
Reply
Old Sep 13, 2003 | 03:23 PM
  #35  
Pro Stock John's Avatar
LS1Tech Co-Founder
20 Year Member
Community Influencer
iTrader: (34)
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 45,353
Likes: 1,786
From: Chicago, IL
Default Re: GAINS WITH SWAPPING OUT MY CURRENT CAM??

IMO I would get the belt/blower alignment issue revolved, dyno the car with a 11.5-12.0 AF at WOT, and see where it peaks. Let's see what your RWHP and RWTQ look like. If we can get 600rwhp with the cam you have I say run it like that for a while.
Reply
Old Sep 14, 2003 | 12:09 AM
  #36  
BIGBOS's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Senior Member
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 11,603
Likes: 0
From: Chi-Town, IL
Default Re: GAINS WITH SWAPPING OUT MY CURRENT CAM??

Yea, thats what I'm planning to do....

Hopefully I can get some good HP....
Reply




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:42 AM.

story-0
Topdon ONE vs. Artidiag 800 BT2: Which is the Diagnostic Tablet For You?

Slideshow: We take a close look at the ONE and Artidiag 800BT2 diagnostic tools from Topdon and the reasons to buy one over the other.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-28 11:05:11


VIEW MORE
story-1
Gas Monkey Built a 6-Wheel Ferrari Testarossa With a Corvette LT4 Engine

Slideshow: The controversial Ferrari F6 swaps its original flat-12 for a Corvette Z06-derived LT4 V8 and sends power to four rear wheels through a custom-built drivetrain.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-26 18:23:54


VIEW MORE
story-2
7 Most Reliable High-Performance Engines GM Has Ever Built

Slideshow:These GM engines didn't just make huge power, they survived abuse, boost, track days, and six-digit mileage with a reputation for refusing to quit.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-21 16:45:27


VIEW MORE
story-3
Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

Slideshow: This heavily modified 1971 Camaro mixes classic muscle car styling with a fifth-generation Camaro interior and modern LS3 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:06:42


VIEW MORE
story-4
6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

Slideshow: From wobbling harmonic balancers to failed EBCMs, these are the issues that define long-term C5 ownership and what repairs typically involve.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-07 18:44:57


VIEW MORE
story-5
Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

Slideshow: A modern Camaro transformed into a retro icon, this limited-run "Bandit" build blends nostalgia with brute force in a way few revivals manage.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-21 13:57:02


VIEW MORE
story-6
Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

Slideshow: Cadillac didn't just crash the high-performance luxury vehicle party, it showed up loud, supercharged, and occasionally a little unhinged...

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-16 10:05:15


VIEW MORE
story-7
Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

Slideshow: Top ten most powerful Chevy trucks ever made

By | 2026-03-25 09:22:26


VIEW MORE
story-8
Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

Slideshow: Hennessey has turned the Silverado ZR2 into a 700-hp off-road monster with supercharged V8 power and a limited production run.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-24 18:57:52


VIEW MORE
story-9
Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

Slideshow: A one-off sports car that looks like a vintage Italian exotic-but hides a C6 Corvette underneath-just sold for the price of a new mid-engine Corvette.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-23 18:53:41


VIEW MORE