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Old 10-03-2008, 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by DrTurbo
Easy way to know.......

If you can see the shaft through the top of the compressor wheel your fine. If not, then your running a stub shaft.
thats all fine problem now is he has broke the case were the bearings are , big crack all the way threw it. its junk .. does not look like it starved from oil ..

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Old 10-04-2008, 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by possessed1
thats all fine problem now is he has broke the case were the bearings are , big crack all the way threw it. its junk .. does not look like it starved from oil ..

Neil
Correct, that CHRA is a now a paper weight.
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Originally Posted by DrTurbo
Easy way to know.......

If you can see the shaft through the top of the compressor wheel your fine. If not, then your running a stub shaft.
Would the turbo have to disassembled to view that? Or mine still has the sticker on it from Precision, should I just post that info?
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Originally Posted by veee8
Would the turbo have to disassembled to view that? Or mine still has the sticker on it from Precision, should I just post that info?
Just post a picture of the compressor wheel from the front. I can tell you easily.
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Here is one...

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I'm over my turbo breakage, I'll rebuilding over the winter.

But those guys running these GT47-88's, I think you should get part numbers over to Jose or Dr Turbo, take pics whatever, and make sure your unit is gonna work.
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Originally Posted by veee8
Here is one...

That is the old stub shaft version.......

Here is the new version....



Look at the end of the comp wheel. The new version has the shaft come through it. You can see the top of the shaft through the wheel.
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So can I get this thing covered from Precision, it is new.
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Ill talk to ya in Memphis John.

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Old 10-05-2008, 04:13 PM
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I've been flogging the crap out of the "old style". Had a coupler come off first pass last night but got it all buttoned up and went 5.72@126 @3280lbs Same turbo has been 6.0@117 in my Lightning at over 3600lbs too.
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I went 6.0 @116 with mine too Frank, but when I tried to run 22-24psi it blew up both times.
Old 10-05-2008, 08:23 PM
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Ahhh, Well that may have been grossly overspinning the thing to make that much boost on a "big" motor... (I'm not an expert)
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The best mine has run is 6.27 @ 115 in a 4000lb car. I've had mine to 22 psi many times with no problems.
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I just got off the phone with Precision. They said, that Garret changed the design but both versions are rated at 1500 hp, and unless you have a backfire or are running without a blow off valve, or have excessive backpressure or a problem with the rest of the turbo kit, there is not a general problem with these turbo's. They have sold hundreds or either version, and there is not a recall or a stated problem with either design. So... take it for what it is worth. I think I will just run mine as is.
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I am biased, because of a turbo from precision years ago, that later I found out was doomed to die no matter what....and it did, and did and did......(Ironically similar to this story)


But, if its fine...........why would it be changed? HHHmmmmmmmm

and a rating is worth about as much as my used tp.........just today, mcleod told me that their 800 hp clutch wouldnt work with 600 hp vette.
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Guys remember boost does not equal shaft speed. 20psi on a 2.0L and 20psi on a 6.0L means shaft speeds are WAY different.
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I'm running a 50mm Tial BOV, no backfires. No problem, I'm over it. I know it killed itself when I dialed up more boost, I'm moving forward. Can't seem to find a good deal on a PT 88/98 so I'm looking at a slightly used Innovative 88/98 that I would then send to Jose for a inspection and freshen if necessary.
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Originally Posted by Pro Stock John
Was talking to one of the PTE guys for a while, he felt that the turbo croaked from being over spun and that the backpressure might have been way too high. Given that I was only running a 348ci, I'd say those guys running GT47-88's with 348-408ci setups might want to call over there and see what they say regarding backpressure. Seemed to be saying that I would have been okay with smaller cubes but heck that's like running a darn 5.3 truck motor.
This might explain why I didn't have any issues with my GT47-88 on my 377cid motor... I ran a larger A/R. 1.23 vs your 1.08, hence reducing my back pressure.

and fwiw, I was running the old version.
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That's a good point Ben, I didn't really ever ask you what A/R you were running.
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Just to clarify John, when the shaft broke was the blow off valve getting a good vacuum signal?

It sounds like a case mean turbo bark if that's the scenario. I wouldn't blame the turbo necessarily.

Running at a high shaft speed (high boost) didn't help the cause, but when the throttle closes the the BOV doesn't do it's thing at 24psi you're going to have serious compressor deceleration. This is very hard on all parts (bearings, shafts).

just my $.02,

Nick

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