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Old Jan 15, 2012 | 09:14 PM
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I'm sort of at a loss on my Dad's car. At first I had a small miss, then it it became more of a stumble.

I got a DTC of 1151 1153, 1154 all bank 2 O2.

I replaced the O2 and I cleaned the plugs.

I thought that was it.

On my test drive, I had a complete cylinder drop.

I water tested which cylinder wasn't firing. I got #2 no fire.

I pulled the plug smelled it, didn't smell fuel, replaced the wire and checked for spark.

Got spark. Still no fire.

No noise in the engine, no metal in oil. I pulled valve cover, all ok there.

So I've almost run out of ideas. I don't have a compression tester yet and I don't know how to check for injector firing. I thought about swapping another injector to see if the missfire moves. I did tap on it and still nothing.

Please let me know. I hate a car running on 7 cylinders.

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Old Jan 15, 2012 | 10:20 PM
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Pull off #2 injector plug and test the pink wire for power with the key in on position. If ok use a test light across both terminals of the injector connector. The test light should blink while the engine is being cranked. This may require a buddys help to perform this test. If the light blinks you may have a dead or stuck injector.
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Old Jan 15, 2012 | 11:23 PM
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Thanks for the tip! I just checked the pink wire and it was ok 12volts...I'll try the light thing tomorrow. I do have a multi tester if that helps. I don't know what the ohm setting should be to test the injector.
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Old Jan 16, 2012 | 01:37 AM
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I went through the same problems a few days ago cylinder #3 miss fire
after scan by Tech 2 & hp tuner and checking coil,plug,spark,manifold leak,etc

it was just broken springs
check your springs
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Old Jan 16, 2012 | 06:26 AM
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I water tested which cylinder wasn't firing. I got #2 no fire. Please expain this.
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Old Jan 16, 2012 | 07:21 AM
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I water tested which cylinder wasn't firing. I got #2 no fire. Please expain this.
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Old Jan 16, 2012 | 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Old Geezer
I just read the way he was diagnoseing the missfire...I am just wondering...as in I have never heard of this...how this is done. I was gonna offer some help.
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Old Jan 16, 2012 | 08:20 AM
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How did you test for spark? Have you tried a new spark plug? Spraying water at the header tube is and old school method of telling whether or not a cylinder is indeed producing power. I take it #2 did not evaporate water similar to say#s 4,6,8 A compression check is needed to rule out any mechanical issues that may be causing your problem.
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Old Jan 16, 2012 | 08:23 AM
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Take off the plug and put it in the wire and try to start it.
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Old Jan 16, 2012 | 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by mantycarguy
How did you test for spark? Have you tried a new spark plug? Spraying water at the header tube is and old school method of telling whether or not a cylinder is indeed producing power. I take it #2 did not evaporate water similar to say#s 4,6,8 A compression check is needed to rule out any mechanical issues that may be causing your problem.
never heard of that before..Not a really good test though. The best "old skool" test would be a vacuum gauge. that would confirm valve train or internal engine issue.
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Old Jan 16, 2012 | 11:27 AM
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Yeah, water test is spray water on the header. If it vaporises on contact then cylinder is firing...well on this #2 the header gets wet and drips water. I can even grap the header. Now that, this is out of the way...

I pulled valve cover, no metal in oil, springs/rockers are good.

I'm leaning towards the injector. Going to put everything back together and test injector. I've already confirmed I got power to it.
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Old Jan 16, 2012 | 11:40 AM
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see if you are getting a pulse to the injector
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