fuel pump booster
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Originally Posted by Racetronix
The MSD unit is suppose to plug into the Racetronix harness after the relay with the connector set supplied. Do NOT deviate from this procedure. The system is perfectly thought out and there is NO reason to change the layout!
Sorry, its been changed. I have a pretty good electrical backround and this will work just fine. If it doesnt work I wont blame it on you - dont worry
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Originally Posted by Inspector12
Hey some one showed you my pics LOL! That is where I mounted mine lol! funny how alot of us think alike. Looks good and looks like it is wokring for you .
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"Since" its recommended to wire the booster as close as you can to the pump I'm going mount mines where the stock moonsoon amp goes and use the hole that suppiles the wire to the fuel pump as a wire feed hole. Unless the lenght of the vaccum hose to the unit can cause a delay they I will mount it elsewhere.
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Originally Posted by highspeedspecialist
"Since" its recommended to wire the booster as close as you can to the pump I'm going mount mines where the stock moonsoon amp goes and use the hole that suppiles the wire to the fuel pump as a wire feed hole. Unless the lenght of the vaccum hose to the unit can cause a delay they I will mount it elsewhere.
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Originally Posted by highspeedspecialist
"Since" its recommended to wire the booster as close as you can to the pump I'm going mount mines where the stock moonsoon amp goes and use the hole that suppiles the wire to the fuel pump as a wire feed hole. Unless the lenght of the vaccum hose to the unit can cause a delay they I will mount it elsewhere.
Mount it outside the car behind the rear seat keeping the booster close to the relay in the Racetronix harness. Both the MSD and KB BAP are encapsulated in epoxy so you don't have to worry about the elements getting inside. It is much cooler in this location than under the hood of your car. Interfacing the BAP in the proper location prevents the booster from placing a parasitic load on the battery when the car is off.
Note: If you cut into the Racetronix harness you void its lifetime warranty.
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Originally Posted by MIGHTYMOUSE
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V-Plus Volt Booster
Your alternator is designed to put out a specific voltage, generally 13.8 volts. The only problem is when there's a greater demand on the electrical system, such as a WOT blast, the alternator falls a little short. The V-Plus is designed to overcome voltage taper at WOT by stepping up the alternator voltage 2.2v. at 70% throttle. Result? More power to your fuel pump and ignition system. Unit plugs in, with no wires to cut or tap into. Includes hardware.
CSP102130 LS1 V-Plus Volt Booster $69.99
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Caspers
V-Plus Volt Booster
Your alternator is designed to put out a specific voltage, generally 13.8 volts. The only problem is when there's a greater demand on the electrical system, such as a WOT blast, the alternator falls a little short. The V-Plus is designed to overcome voltage taper at WOT by stepping up the alternator voltage 2.2v. at 70% throttle. Result? More power to your fuel pump and ignition system. Unit plugs in, with no wires to cut or tap into. Includes hardware.
CSP102130 LS1 V-Plus Volt Booster $69.99
http://www.ls1speed.com/catagory.cfm.../%20Electrical
Has anyone used this item? Will it work on a '02 Z06? How does it boost the voltage sellectively? Will it harm anything else in the car (ECU...)? Where does it install?
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if your car has a tps sensor it will.
they say it does not go up high enough to harm anything.. i assume they have done their homework on it.
you plug your tps clip into it and plug it into your tps sensor. it sits right under the throttlebody. it has a plug that goes to your alternator and splices in between its plug, and then has one last connection to a positive terminal on the car
for me it was really the only choice.. since i run two pumps and kb and msd both said their boosters were only rated for one pump and i would have to buy two.. NO WAY.
they say it does not go up high enough to harm anything.. i assume they have done their homework on it.
you plug your tps clip into it and plug it into your tps sensor. it sits right under the throttlebody. it has a plug that goes to your alternator and splices in between its plug, and then has one last connection to a positive terminal on the car
for me it was really the only choice.. since i run two pumps and kb and msd both said their boosters were only rated for one pump and i would have to buy two.. NO WAY.
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Alright the reason I say anything about the length of vaccume line is a simple concept to understand, if you add to the line then it will take longer for the booster to react to the vaccume change. But if it's not even that sensitive then its ok then. About the parasetic how does that work? I mean don't the msd have a on/off switch? I know parasetic draw is the draw of current with car off but little things like pcm memory and clock memory draw some current but total parasetic draw of current should not exceed .5 amps or else you will have dead battery problems of morning start ups. I don't really want to mount it in the front either, 1 it looks not clean 2 it won't pass smog. Yes I'm going to try to make my turbo car pass smog when I need to and having that will make me fail visual and yes I can remove it but that all that work I aint' trying to be doing everytime smog comes around.
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Originally Posted by highspeedspecialist
Alright the reason I say anything about the length of vaccume line is a simple concept to understand, if you add to the line then it will take longer for the booster to react to the vaccume change. But if it's not even that sensitive then its ok then. About the parasetic how does that work? I mean don't the msd have a on/off switch? I know parasetic draw is the draw of current with car off but little things like pcm memory and clock memory draw some current but total parasetic draw of current should not exceed .5 amps or else you will have dead battery problems of morning start ups. I don't really want to mount it in the front either, 1 it looks not clean 2 it won't pass smog. Yes I'm going to try to make my turbo car pass smog when I need to and having that will make me fail visual and yes I can remove it but that all that work I aint' trying to be doing everytime smog comes around.
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Originally Posted by Wet 1
Now you have me rethinking that MSD I just ordered.
Has anyone used this item? Will it work on a '02 Z06? How does it boost the voltage sellectively? Will it harm anything else in the car (ECU...)? Where does it install?
Has anyone used this item? Will it work on a '02 Z06? How does it boost the voltage sellectively? Will it harm anything else in the car (ECU...)? Where does it install?
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Originally Posted by Racetronix
...If you need a major increase in fuel pump volume you should consider a MSD or KB booster which is designed to plug into all Racetronix f-body and y-body harnesses
I bought my Z06 with your pump installed. With that said, where should I look for the wiring for the MSD to connect into? Most instals I've seen on C5's have the MSD mounted in the front next to the battery... is this okay?
Where do you reccomend the setting on the MSD be set for my car which is making about 9 psi and 600+ rwhp?
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Originally Posted by Wet 1
I'm a little leary about taking advise from someone with such a slow car, but I think I'll order one and try it out.
Thanks MM!
Thanks MM!
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Originally Posted by highspeedspecialist
So with the msd booster and the racetronix pump with new rails do I need new feedlines? This is good up to 700hp? Is that maxing it out already?
At 600RWHP you should have a FM FPR as well.
The factory feedline is fine.
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Originally Posted by Wet 1
I just got the MSD BAP yesterday. I noticed the long lead (about 15'-20') that goes to the fuel pump does not have any terminals or plug on it (just bare ends). Based on your statement above I'm under the impression that there should be a plug to interfaced your pump... is this correct?
I bought my Z06 with your pump installed. With that said, where should I look for the wiring for the MSD to connect into? Most instals I've seen on C5's have the MSD mounted in the front next to the battery... is this okay?
Where do you reccomend the setting on the MSD be set for my car which is making about 9 psi and 600+ rwhp?
I bought my Z06 with your pump installed. With that said, where should I look for the wiring for the MSD to connect into? Most instals I've seen on C5's have the MSD mounted in the front next to the battery... is this okay?
Where do you reccomend the setting on the MSD be set for my car which is making about 9 psi and 600+ rwhp?
http://www.racetronix.com/product/RX-C5-FPK-2/RX-C5-FPK-2b.jpg
It is the connector set just after the relay with the green lock. This connector set is installed on the booster wiring. A perfect place for the relay and the booster is the large open area you will find behind the driver's side rear tire wheel well cover. There is a place to mount the relay and a good chassis ground location. This location is fairly well protected from the elements, is much cooler than the engine compartment and eliminates wiring clutter.
Set the MSD to provide apx 17V @ WOT. The adjustment screw might not have enough range / gain to get you there at 9PSI but the closer you can get it the better. The MSD manual states 15.7V / 7.5A @ 5PSI with the control fully CW. Do not exceed 17-18 volts under WOT.
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Last edited by Racetronix; 05-23-2005 at 05:09 PM.