Hydrogen Kit questions
05-21-2008, 12:57 PM
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Hydrogen Kit questions Hey, I was talking to my ex girlfriend the other day and she said her dad bought her a hydrogen kit for her 1976 camaro LT. She says now she gets around 25 mpg with her 350 and it is also a little bit faster. Here is the kit in question... http://www.preignitioncc.com/peakenergy/ anyway, has anyone ever heard of anyone doing this before? I would imagine in my M6 I would get around 30 - 35mpg. That would be nice! Anyone? What are your thoughts on this?
05-21-2008, 01:16 PM
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We have done some experimenting around here with browns gas, which includes mostly hydrogen. On late model vehicles it requires some special tuning to fool the o2 sensors. What happens is when the hydrogen (browns gas) is introduced into a late model computer controlled engine it beleives it is running lean due to the extra oxygen molecules being introduced, so it adds fuel. Without tuning this would mean worse fuel mileage. Timing must also be retarded to about 10*. This setup does work but must be properly tuned. They tend to be easier to use on carbed vehicles though. GOOD LUCK!
05-21-2008, 01:58 PM
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We have done some experimenting around here with browns gas, which includes mostly hydrogen. On late model vehicles it requires some special tuning to fool the o2 sensors. What happens is when the hydrogen (browns gas) is introduced into a late model computer controlled engine it beleives it is running lean due to the extra oxygen molecules being introduced, so it adds fuel. Without tuning this would mean worse fuel mileage. Timing must also be retarded to about 10*. This setup does work but must be properly tuned. They tend to be easier to use on carbed vehicles though. GOOD LUCK!
05-22-2008, 09:49 PM
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Hey, I was talking to my ex girlfriend the other day and she said her dad bought her a hydrogen kit for her 1976 camaro LT. She says now she gets around 25 mpg with her 350 and it is also a little bit faster. Here is the kit in question... http://www.preignitioncc.com/peakenergy/ anyway, has anyone ever heard of anyone doing this before? I would imagine in my M6 I would get around 30 - 35mpg. That would be nice! Anyone? What are your thoughts on this?
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05-30-2008, 09:24 AM
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u can build your own with a 5 gal paint bucket and some SS plates.
It does work with tuning, and hydrongen make 3x more energy than it takes to make the gas from water.
It does work with tuning, and hydrongen make 3x more energy than it takes to make the gas from water.
06-03-2008, 08:02 AM
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Watch out for this stuff! We had some threads on LS1com. The kits they sell are going to people who are in a panic over gas prices! There is a PCV enhancer/jar that I have used for years. This helps some, but no where near the claims for gas mpg. I did see an increase, not much. It works like a catch can only better. I am building some for a few friends. I will get the link for photo up soon. You can make them yourself and they are safe. If I forget somebody PM me and I will do it, just give me some time.
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Guys, I doubt this acts anything more than a large catch can. If you could potentially double your MPG, ALL CAR MANUFACTURES WITH THE MILLIONS in R&D would have used this system already. Think about it...
06-03-2008, 08:46 AM
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That is the worst attempt at a logical thought I have ever seen.
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im pretty sure they tested a hydrogen producing electrolysis unit and magnets on the fuel lines similar to this kit on Mythbusters. the gains in mpg were nonexistant or negligible.
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just curious. does anyone know about how much this kit costs? i couldn't find it on the site but im sure someone could throw one together and sell them for less.
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There are many reasons that you haven't seen anything like this from the OEM's.
1. you have a huge oil industry that pours money in to lobbyist groups to keep the EPA and Gov. at bay on MPG standards. They are about oil, diesel and gasoline and selling it at the highest profit margin they can. It would appear that they spend more on lobbyist than they do on R&D of new energy sources.
2. most people aren't willing to fill the water and the gas... some people have a hard time changing the oil. All the car companies work to almost the lowest common denominator when developing products...so if that means not ticking off the lazy people, then that's what they work to.
There are many more...
Some HHO generators are built by billy joe jim bob that don't produce enough gas to do anything, that's the problem with this stuff and it turns people off. Word of mouth can put a stop to the widespread use of this as easy as anything else. If you buy one, get one from a established manufacture....it may cost more upfront but if you don't see the results you had expected you can usually return it for a refund.
1. you have a huge oil industry that pours money in to lobbyist groups to keep the EPA and Gov. at bay on MPG standards. They are about oil, diesel and gasoline and selling it at the highest profit margin they can. It would appear that they spend more on lobbyist than they do on R&D of new energy sources.
2. most people aren't willing to fill the water and the gas... some people have a hard time changing the oil. All the car companies work to almost the lowest common denominator when developing products...so if that means not ticking off the lazy people, then that's what they work to.
There are many more...
Some HHO generators are built by billy joe jim bob that don't produce enough gas to do anything, that's the problem with this stuff and it turns people off. Word of mouth can put a stop to the widespread use of this as easy as anything else. If you buy one, get one from a established manufacture....it may cost more upfront but if you don't see the results you had expected you can usually return it for a refund.
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There are many reasons that you haven't seen anything like this from the OEM's.
1. you have a huge oil industry that pours money in to lobbyist groups to keep the EPA and Gov. at bay on MPG standards. They are about oil, diesel and gasoline and selling it at the highest profit margin they can. It would appear that they spend more on lobbyist than they do on R&D of new energy sources.
2. most people aren't willing to fill the water and the gas... some people have a hard time changing the oil. All the car companies work to almost the lowest common denominator when developing products...so if that means not ticking off the lazy people, then that's what they work to.
There are many more...
Some HHO generators are built by billy joe jim bob that don't produce enough gas to do anything, that's the problem with this stuff and it turns people off. Word of mouth can put a stop to the widespread use of this as easy as anything else. If you buy one, get one from a established manufacture....it may cost more upfront but if you don't see the results you had expected you can usually return it for a refund.
1. you have a huge oil industry that pours money in to lobbyist groups to keep the EPA and Gov. at bay on MPG standards. They are about oil, diesel and gasoline and selling it at the highest profit margin they can. It would appear that they spend more on lobbyist than they do on R&D of new energy sources.
2. most people aren't willing to fill the water and the gas... some people have a hard time changing the oil. All the car companies work to almost the lowest common denominator when developing products...so if that means not ticking off the lazy people, then that's what they work to.
There are many more...
Some HHO generators are built by billy joe jim bob that don't produce enough gas to do anything, that's the problem with this stuff and it turns people off. Word of mouth can put a stop to the widespread use of this as easy as anything else. If you buy one, get one from a established manufacture....it may cost more upfront but if you don't see the results you had expected you can usually return it for a refund.