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Old 06-08-2008 | 02:22 PM
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He is completly right. Did you guys know that BMW owns the patent to a 200 MPG carb? The OEMs do not want us to have this kind of stuff.
I hate to even waste the bandwith to respond to this....

Show us the proof.. If its a pat. it will be easy to find, and include all the details needed to make your own....

The myth of a 100 or 200 mpg carb has been around since the 1950's......
Old 06-23-2008 | 10:55 AM
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Heres the proof. I haven't been on the site in a while.

http://www.rexresearch.com/pogue/1pogue.htm

I guess it wasn't a waste of bandwith.
Old 06-23-2008 | 12:21 PM
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My grandfather swears he used a similar carb on an old ford, but the fuel companies changed their gasoline formulas so it would no longer work. Something to do with fuel flash temps I believe.
Old 06-23-2008 | 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by PontiacChris
Heres the proof. I haven't been on the site in a while.

http://www.rexresearch.com/pogue/1pogue.htm

I guess it wasn't a waste of bandwith.
Are you a complete ******* idiot? Patents have also been issued for perpetual motion machines. This has ABSOLUTELY no bearing on whether or not they worked (none did). BTW mods, I asked a question, I didn't call someone a name.
edit-- Yes I did call someone a ******* idiot. Now I just need to figure out how to implement a physics class filter for tech forums.

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Old 06-24-2008 | 02:49 AM
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Originally Posted by gametech
Are you a complete ******* idiot? Patents have also been issued for perpetual motion machines. This has ABSOLUTELY no bearing on whether or not they worked (none did). BTW mods, I asked a question, I didn't call someone a name.
edit-- Yes I did call someone a ******* idiot. Now I just need to figure out how to implement a physics class filter for tech forums.
No I am not a ******* idot. Damn man, you need to calm down. I have no proof of it actually working and I never said anything about it working. I was just responding to Krom that asked for the patent numbers.
Old 06-30-2008 | 05:47 PM
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So if installed and retarded 10 degrees, is this something that could be tuned with HP Tuners?
Old 06-30-2008 | 06:36 PM
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sounds like it could be, it just might not work
Old 08-03-2008 | 03:02 PM
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Funny how some of the patents for high mileage carbs were purchased by big oil.
Old 08-17-2008 | 01:24 AM
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Originally Posted by stevegrizzle
u can build your own with a 5 gal paint bucket and some SS plates.

It does work with tuning, and hydrongen make 3x more energy than it takes to make the gas from water.
if thats the case why not just set up a power plant using this great formula youve come up with
you just found a solution to all of the worlds energy needs
Old 08-17-2008 | 08:41 AM
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Casual readers beware, this thread could easily make you dumber...
Old 08-17-2008 | 10:16 AM
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Theres a college thats been doing hydrogen conversions for a while now. If you look on youtube, you can find all kinds of info about it. They were running it off of multiple fuels and their hydrogen was in a tank. The videos are a bit boring but real informative. Hydrogen isnt lower in octane, it just burns much faster. Octane and burn rate arent directly related. Introducing hydrogen as a supplemental accelerant allows for more rotational energy because the piston is closer to TDC when the fuel is ignited. In an engine with 35deg. of timing, the piston hasnt reached TDC yet and the rotating assem. is fighting increasing pressure BEFORE it begins the power stroke. The other benefit from hydrogen is that it causes the primary fuel to burn more completely, i.e. cleaner. I have no idea if these water generators are the answer, but hydrogen def. has benefits that have been proven. Almost forgot to mention BTW, the colleges hydrogen car had a timing adjusting box installed so they could adjust on the fly acording to what fuel they were running.
Old 08-17-2008 | 12:54 PM
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real quick on those patin. 1936. come on. if it could be made. it would have been done already.
Old 08-22-2008 | 04:18 PM
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ford has some v-10 hydogen vans they are experimenting with as is honda in calif.
brown's gas works but there are down sides. it is cororsive in higher levels no timing btdc
rings and cylinders rust up. safety issues etc...
you could run a later model car with it in open loop.
here's a good place to start
waterpoweredcar.com hydrogen booster is a good one to put in google that will get you hours of reading time.
after reading a members claim on a tuner forum of 33mph on a '99 350ci vortec suburban i spent the afternoon reading. when i got done reading i think that his claim of almost twice the mpg is very possible and most likely true. the down side is big though.
Old 08-22-2008 | 04:33 PM
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here's a good link:

http://waterpoweredcar.com/pdf.files/D9.pdf
Old 08-22-2008 | 05:02 PM
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theres a guy that came by my shop today to have a 40 amp home made one cleaned up for his truck. he already has a small 15 amp one on his BUG and saw 100 mpg more per tank. ill be building one shortly for my 82 impala that now gets around 12 mpg



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