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Old May 28, 2008 | 11:00 PM
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I have dual pumps feeding a single -8an line, the second pump is gas pedal micro-switch actuated, and its' relay is connected to the alternator. The primary pump is connected through the stock wiring. Both are Walbro 255lb pumps. I'm using an LS2 fuel rail with -8an fittings and am using the stock feed as a -6an return through an Aeromotive regulator.

I adjusted the regulator to 60psi (engine off, floor the pedal, check pressure, adjust regulator). However when the car is running on the primary pump, the fuel pressure is at 50psi. Shouldn't the pressure always be at 60psi regardless?
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Old May 28, 2008 | 11:13 PM
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Try setting the regulator w/ the engine running, warmed up, idling.
Setting the psi with no inj flow can make a difference.
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Old May 29, 2008 | 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Old Geezer
Try setting the regulator w/ the engine running, warmed up, idling.
Setting the psi with no inj flow can make a difference.


Thanks, will do! I didn't think it would make much difference.
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Old May 29, 2008 | 11:37 AM
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Fuel pressure will be lower on one pump then two -- less volume of fuel through system.
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Old May 29, 2008 | 11:39 AM
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Always set with engine running.

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Originally Posted by Nasty N8
Always set with engine running.

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I'm stupid. The regulator is boost referenced - meaning it's also vacum referenced. When the motor is pulling vacum, the regulator drops the fuel pressure.

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Old May 29, 2008 | 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim Craig
Fuel pressure will be lower on one pump then two -- less volume of fuel through system.
Irrelevant.

The FPR does not control volume, it controls pressure. It should be the same.
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Lower volume will make less pressure through a given orfice. The orfice would have to shrink in order for the reg to have the same pressure at lower volume. 2 pumps twice the volume = more pressure as compared to one pump.
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Old May 29, 2008 | 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by jstacy
Lower volume will make less pressure through a given orfice. The orfice would have to shrink in order for the reg to have the same pressure at lower volume. 2 pumps twice the volume = more pressure as compared to one pump.
If a FPR had a fixed orifice, it would be pretty bloody useless as a FPR !!!!!!
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Old May 30, 2008 | 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by stevieturbo
Irrelevant.

The FPR does not control volume, it controls pressure. It should be the same.
I am sorry but it will increase the fuel pressure when the second pump (added volume) comes on. He will also experience a fuel pressure fluctuation if he adjusts fuel pressure with the boost line attached -- the regulator is not in a neutral position.
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Originally Posted by Jim Craig
I am sorry but it will increase the fuel pressure when the second pump (added volume) comes on.
Perhaps a split second rise until the FPR sorts it out. But only a split second. If its anything different, buy a proper FPR.

He will also experience a fuel pressure fluctuation if he adjusts fuel pressure with the boost line attached -- the regulator is not in a neutral position.
If a boost line is attached, FP should rise/fall in accordance with boost/vac. Perfectly normal.
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Old May 30, 2008 | 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by stevieturbo
Perhaps a split second rise until the FPR sorts it out. But only a split second. If its anything different, buy a proper FPR.



If a boost line is attached, FP should rise/fall in accordance with boost/vac. Perfectly normal.
You are correct (and mine are one of the best out there) -- not to split hairs but....With my pumps (Weldon) I've got many customers that experience these issues when using a secondary pump (stock intank and then bring in a 2015, 2025 or even a 2035). Its that split second (and possibly longer if the secondary pump is large) that can cause or wreek havoc with some ecu's or injection systems.
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I guess its just a case of not selecting the correct parts to get the job done. If bringing a pump with huge flow online as a secondary, then I guess its only normal to have some fluctuations.

With staged setups, there will be a compromise somewhere, unless the secondary pump can be brought online slowly.

I just run my 044's all the time. Saves worrying about stuff like that.
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I do notice pressure bounces about a pound when the secondary pump comes on and the motor is running. I'm measuring fuel pressure at the regulator. I'm using the Aeromotive A1000 regulator, -8an hoses to the rails and -6an hoses after the rails.

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