How would you settle the issue?
I would prefer not to have the programmers back because I don't have the time to sell them, and havnt been able to enjoy my car in months.
Russyo can put in his 2 cents if he wants. Yall don't make the decision of who can and can't post. His story is tried and true, but I'm tired of posting here. Doug I'm beyond ready to be done with this. Please hit me up soon.
Russyo can put in his 2 cents if he wants. Yall don't make the decision of who can and can't post. His story is tried and true, but I'm tired of posting here. Doug I'm beyond ready to be done with this. Please hit me up soon.
the 2 posts dude has no credability and should be dismissed as such. not saying he is a bad dude, just that he cannot be considered a reliable source.
the whole crock about 2 people use the same login - its his account, no wait its my account, smells fishy. anybody reading it can make their own conclusion, but to me there are games being played. my choice would be to not do business.
Okay fact is that i still feel that there was too much time, too much opportunity for too many things to happen. The rearend could have been installed in another LT1 car, it could have had the axles and diff pulled out and swapped with another rear and taken to the shop, it could have been installed on an LS1 car with LT1 rear brakes, it could have had the backing plates swapped and installed on an LS1 car. Any of these are possibilities (some more likely than others obviously).
I called 3 used parts dealers here in town, all 3 had a policy of 30days return on a mechanical parts including a rearend. Even then it was up to THEIR management's decision (electrical parts were when it left their possession fyi). They also told it is not their policy to dissassemble an axle or even pull off a cover of one to inspect it. They said that is the BUYER's responsibility to do, if they desire, within 30 days. These are places that have been in business for 20+years. All credible places here locally to me.
Every member here, except for friends of yours (who are extremely biased in my opinion) has said that it was too much time and to refund anything in my position is beyond what they would do or even "retarded".
You turned down my offer to make this a quick resolution about a week ago with the return of the programmers. I believe there is nothing more that i willing/able to do at this point.
I called 3 used parts dealers here in town, all 3 had a policy of 30days return on a mechanical parts including a rearend. Even then it was up to THEIR management's decision (electrical parts were when it left their possession fyi). They also told it is not their policy to dissassemble an axle or even pull off a cover of one to inspect it. They said that is the BUYER's responsibility to do, if they desire, within 30 days. These are places that have been in business for 20+years. All credible places here locally to me.
Every member here, except for friends of yours (who are extremely biased in my opinion) has said that it was too much time and to refund anything in my position is beyond what they would do or even "retarded".
You turned down my offer to make this a quick resolution about a week ago with the return of the programmers. I believe there is nothing more that i willing/able to do at this point.
Last edited by ddr698; Apr 15, 2010 at 09:59 AM.
I had a similar issue on here a few years ago with a torque converter the guy selling it told me it was good to go, I sent it straight to Yank to be flushed and cleaned and they told me it was garbage. I never got any type of refund from the seller at all and ended up buying a brand new converter. IMO it was sold as is.
Sorry for your luck but no refund should be issued. If you turned down your form of payment then to bad. I have bought from the OP and had a good expierence with him.
I have also resold parts that were broke when sold to me and had to pay to make it right because i did not properly inspect them when received.
I have also resold parts that were broke when sold to me and had to pay to make it right because i did not properly inspect them when received.
candyblueta needs to learn from this experience.
1. check things you buy within a reasonable amount of time.
2. understand that you hurt your own credability around here with the whole "its my account/its his account". straighten that problem out and reestablish credability around here.
3. take the more then generous offer to return the programmers.
1. check things you buy within a reasonable amount of time.
2. understand that you hurt your own credability around here with the whole "its my account/its his account". straighten that problem out and reestablish credability around here.
3. take the more then generous offer to return the programmers.
Isnt it kind of funny that candyblue probably had to beg him to take the programmers as payment. And now that he wants money back he wont take the programers back as payment. Im sure the seller didnt want 4 programmers. Well maybe you can stack them like them damn Diesel guys do. And as stated before 30 days is standard return policy.
Isnt it kind of funny that candyblue probably had to beg him to take the programmers as payment. And now that he wants money back he wont take the programers back as payment. Im sure the seller didnt want 4 programmers. Well maybe you can stack them like them damn Diesel guys do. And as stated before 30 days is standard return policy.
Correct, i didn't really want them but they were presented to me as an easy resale. That hasn't really proven to be the case. 4 months later I still actually have 3 of them sitting here. I havn't been real thrilled with $600 sitting there in programmers for the last 4 month either. Not the greatest venture on my part but then I did agree to it at the time and thats now my own problem.
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Verdad Gallardo Good question, would be nice as that would create a VERY easy resolution, but.....
The rearend was in the car when I purchased it (buyer was informed of this during the sale btw). The fact that the rear end has changed hands at all voids warranty all together according to their website...
http://www.moserengineering.com/mose...y-information/
The rearend was in the car when I purchased it (buyer was informed of this during the sale btw). The fact that the rear end has changed hands at all voids warranty all together according to their website...
http://www.moserengineering.com/mose...y-information/
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My bad, I thought you were the original owner. Moser warranties their axles for 10 yrs. I don't understand how the axles could be twisted AND the posi is shot and you not know it when you were driving on it. The axles I could see but not the posi. If he won't take the programmers back as payment, but gave them to you as payment then TOUGH ****! You take the chance of buying a bad part when you buy used, especially over the internet. I would never conceive of buying something that expensive over the net(I buy new, so I have that 10 year warranty), and even if I were crazy enough to try it...the first thing I would have done is pull it apart to rebuild it immediately not wait 4 months. He expects you to take his word for it, that he didn't do anything to it, but he won't take your word for it, that it was fine when you shipped it. Hmmm, interesting. Oh, well, he will just have to buy replacement parts at his cost!
My bad, I thought you were the original owner. Moser warranties their axles for 10 yrs. I don't understand how the axles could be twisted AND the posi is shot and you not know it when you were driving on it. The axles I could see but not the posi. If he won't take the programmers back as payment, but gave them to you as payment then TOUGH ****! You take the chance of buying a bad part when you buy used, especially over the internet. I would never conceive of buying something that expensive over the net(I buy new, so I have that 10 year warranty), and even if I were crazy enough to try it...the first thing I would have done is pull it apart to rebuild it immediately not wait 4 months. He expects you to take his word for it, that he didn't do anything to it, but he won't take your word for it, that it was fine when you shipped it. Hmmm, interesting. Oh, well, he will just have to buy replacement parts at his cost!
I said it before, and Ill say it again:
LETS SEE IT!!!!!!!!!!!
And before anyone chimes in and says "you can call the shop, blah blah ****** blah", just post up the pics............. I wanna see one thats got twisted axles and a "bad" posi............
LETS SEE IT!!!!!!!!!!!
And before anyone chimes in and says "you can call the shop, blah blah ****** blah", just post up the pics............. I wanna see one thats got twisted axles and a "bad" posi............
If I were selling a rear, I would have at minimum pulled the axles to inspect and documented condition. I'm not picking sides here, just stating how I protect myself so the listing is as accurate as possible.
Well, I have read this entire post and have the following to say. I don't know DDR698, but I feel comfortable enough that I plan on buying some parts from him as soon as I hear back on them. He made a MORE than fair offer to send back 2 programmers that the buyer valued during payment as MORE than the $345 he is asking for. How in the world can he expect cash back when he used them for partial payment? How can he expect full replacement cost (new cost) for the axles when they weren't new when he bought the rear and he knew this? I mean....if I sell the spare 10 bolt I have (which has Moser axles, richmond 3.73's, TA girdle, and auburn posi) for $450.....and the buyer says the axles are bad... it would be ridiculous for that buyer to want me to refund $300 of the original $450.
I can see how the rear could seem fine when DDR drove the car even if it had some issues. I bet if the buyer had installed it, he wouldn't have had a breakage for a long time. It was just something evident on tear down.
I would generally bend over backwords to make things right, but in this case, after the offer you made about returning the programmers and his attitude about that, I wouldn't refund a single cent, and I wouldn't send him a programmer either.
I can see how the rear could seem fine when DDR drove the car even if it had some issues. I bet if the buyer had installed it, he wouldn't have had a breakage for a long time. It was just something evident on tear down.
I would generally bend over backwords to make things right, but in this case, after the offer you made about returning the programmers and his attitude about that, I wouldn't refund a single cent, and I wouldn't send him a programmer either.
Also ....... PLEASE don't take this personally in regards to LG. I am new here and not at all familiar with them. May be honest good Christian people for all I know........ but even if you saw pics.....or even got the old parts returned to you.....how would you know they aren't some old axles and posi unit that were just laying around there?? Heck, I'm not a shop, but I personally have 2 used 12 bolt posi units, a used spool, and 4 sets of axles (3 stock and one moser) laying around my house from past/current/future projects. I'd think a shop that specialized in these cars would have plenty of access to that stuff. It wouldn't be the first time a shop pulled out old/bad parts to show a customer that they "needed" work done. I work at a parts store, so I see/hear of this stuff all the time.
Again.....I'm not accusing or implying that LG has done anything of the sort. I'm just saying that this happens.
Again.....I'm not accusing or implying that LG has done anything of the sort. I'm just saying that this happens.