View Poll Results: Should i Run it with the Slicks
Dont do it it will granade itself
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Will my 10bolt survive Track pass on Slicks.....
10-02-2010, 03:14 AM
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You will be fine. My advice to make the ten bolt last forever behind an auto: Give it fresh bearings throughout and a solid pinion spacer. The new bearings ($150) really tighten up the clearances inside and allow it to hold on to the power without grenading IMO. The solid pinion spacer eliminates the crush sleeve from shifting/loosening during an aggressive launch. It replaces the crush sleeve completely and only costs about $20.
10-02-2010, 06:39 AM
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my 10 bolt with 410s held many passes from 5K plus before it took a **** and i hit the tires alot harder than you would with the auto.
take it for what its worth, id try it, but my car isnt/wasnt my DD
take it for what its worth, id try it, but my car isnt/wasnt my DD
10-02-2010, 01:29 PM
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well ima go ahead and try it .. might be the only time this car will ever see slicks . so hopefully it will survive .
i do have a stock 6spd rear end from my other camaro sitting in a corner of my garage so thats always an option .
anyone else have any more experiance with these dinky 10bolts ?
i do have a stock 6spd rear end from my other camaro sitting in a corner of my garage so thats always an option .
anyone else have any more experiance with these dinky 10bolts ?
10-02-2010, 03:32 PM
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Do it I have about the same mods as you ready to be install in my car 3200 Stall/LT's/ORY/373 gear/160stat/Tune. I have free mods,Lid,K&N,Smooth bellows/LM1 cat back..02 with 47K LS6 intake..I like to see what yours run for I can have a Ideal what mine should run..I have took out my spare tire and jack and front sway part and brackets..
10-04-2010, 03:44 AM
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my 10 bolt has over 40 passes. SS3600 stall w/3.73's, cammed and LT's. 1.7x to 1.8X 60 ft's. it whines and moans somedays but its still there. give it a shot.
10-04-2010, 12:31 PM
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You will be fine. My advice to make the ten bolt last forever behind an auto: Give it fresh bearings throughout and a solid pinion spacer. The new bearings ($150) really tighten up the clearances inside and allow it to hold on to the power without grenading IMO. The solid pinion spacer eliminates the crush sleeve from shifting/loosening during an aggressive launch. It replaces the crush sleeve completely and only costs about $20.
Bingo! Add an LPW girdle,avoid wheel hop,acting stupid on the street and lighten the car anyway you can...
Have 40 passes with 1.6 sixty foots on the car-ok for now
10-04-2010, 01:18 PM
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the amount of force between the manual and auto is not even close. the manual exerts jerk on the rear which is exponentially higher than the preloaded force of the auto.
its the slap that breaks the rear. thats why the drivers with manual cars that let the clutch out just enough to take the slack out of the drivetrain before they launch will let the rear live a few extra passes.
don't get me wrong enough traction and power will do it too, everything has a lifespan.
its the slap that breaks the rear. thats why the drivers with manual cars that let the clutch out just enough to take the slack out of the drivetrain before they launch will let the rear live a few extra passes.
don't get me wrong enough traction and power will do it too, everything has a lifespan.
10-04-2010, 02:16 PM
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the amount of force between the manual and auto is not even close. the manual exerts jerk on the rear which is exponentially higher than the preloaded force of the auto.
its the slap that breaks the rear. thats why the drivers with manual cars that let the clutch out just enough to take the slack out of the drivetrain before they launch will let the rear live a few extra passes.
don't get me wrong enough traction and power will do it too, everything has a lifespan.
its the slap that breaks the rear. thats why the drivers with manual cars that let the clutch out just enough to take the slack out of the drivetrain before they launch will let the rear live a few extra passes.
don't get me wrong enough traction and power will do it too, everything has a lifespan.
You are right in that the auto CAN preload, which I preached earlier. And you are also right in that it saves rears. But be careful telling anyone with a stalled auto that you can hit the tires harder than he/she can.
10-04-2010, 02:37 PM
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i 100% agree. i had a stalled TH400 and nothing beats the pull off the line.
I think I didn't word it right
edit: the amount of INITIAL(fractions of a second, probably not able to be felt by the driver and def not affecting 60ft times) force between the manual and auto is not even close.
wat I meant by that was the extra force is coming from the lack of preload. not from the autos inability to create it.
does that sound right?
I think I didn't word it right
edit: the amount of INITIAL(fractions of a second, probably not able to be felt by the driver and def not affecting 60ft times) force between the manual and auto is not even close.
wat I meant by that was the extra force is coming from the lack of preload. not from the autos inability to create it.
does that sound right?
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10-04-2010, 02:59 PM
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well you guys pretty much convinced me . i have yet to deal with a stock 10bolt at the track . i orderd a MWC 9" a week after i bought my first camaro , pulled out that stock 10 and its been sitting outside since then
well see how it goes really trying to make it out this coming wensday
well see how it goes really trying to make it out this coming wensday
10-04-2010, 03:23 PM
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i 100% agree. i had a stalled TH400 and nothing beats the pull off the line.
I think I didn't word it right
edit: the amount of INITIAL(fractions of a second, probably not able to be felt by the driver and def not affecting 60ft times) force between the manual and auto is not even close.
wat I meant by that was the extra force is coming from the lack of preload. not from the autos inability to create it.
does that sound right?
I think I didn't word it right
edit: the amount of INITIAL(fractions of a second, probably not able to be felt by the driver and def not affecting 60ft times) force between the manual and auto is not even close.
wat I meant by that was the extra force is coming from the lack of preload. not from the autos inability to create it.
does that sound right?
10-04-2010, 04:39 PM
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I wonder who you might be talking about.
10 bolts can be hit or miss. I've had pretty good luck with 10 bolts even though I've broken my fair share. It helps to be mechanically inclined and having a spare for when one breaks certainly puts a persons mind at ease to launch brutally.
10-17-2010, 06:20 PM
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made it out and ran a 12.5 @107 1.8 60ft ..
not bad i didnt push it too hard did a baby burn out and had the air completly filled up when i launched and still spun quiet a bit .
and did get to drive it back home so im happy
but im going to quit while im ahead . since i dont plan to go to fast maybe just mid 11s since it is a daily driver i think ima go ahead and do the 8.8/10bolt hybrid . im going to use the axles tubes axles and all mounts off my older stock 10bolt housing and buy a used 8.8 and probably buy g force lca mini 4 link .
if anyone has any aditional information please let me knw . i have read alot on the swaps and i feel it will be the most cost friendly way to run mid 11s on a auto !
not bad i didnt push it too hard did a baby burn out and had the air completly filled up when i launched and still spun quiet a bit .
and did get to drive it back home so im happy
but im going to quit while im ahead . since i dont plan to go to fast maybe just mid 11s since it is a daily driver i think ima go ahead and do the 8.8/10bolt hybrid . im going to use the axles tubes axles and all mounts off my older stock 10bolt housing and buy a used 8.8 and probably buy g force lca mini 4 link .
if anyone has any aditional information please let me knw . i have read alot on the swaps and i feel it will be the most cost friendly way to run mid 11s on a auto !
10-18-2010, 01:11 AM
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Contrary to what was said about an auto multiplying torque, its not about the total force exerted over a period of time. Its about the instantaneous application of force before the car ever moves an inch.