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Old Feb 6, 2012 | 07:08 AM
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Allright, so I've got a moser 9" in the car right now. Im on the third set of gears for this thing (long story), and I'm tired of throwing money into this thing to try to make it quiet. Im thinking of cutting my losses by selling the rear end (a very nice piece other than noisy gears) and going to an S60.

This is my question for you guys who may know. Will my UMI short tunnel brace torque arm that is on this moser work with the S60? it seems they are the same style and bolt configuration, so i thought it might. if it doesnt, im guessing its a pretty slight difference. Also, will my driveshaft be rougly the same length for that application? (dont have the measurement at the moment, but i think it has the 1350 yoke on it at the moment).

I know this is kind of vague, but maybe you guys like eric, or bob, might know the answer. I talked to Carl down in Wichita this morning about pricing an S60, but not so much about fitting my torque arm and DS. these will decide if i try to do a swap out.

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Old Feb 6, 2012 | 11:03 AM
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What are your plans for the car long term? The S60 is going to lock you into the ratio you buy it with. Can't help with your other questions, but you should try to look down the road and plan ahead. To decide what carrier and ratio you want you need to know where you want to end up.

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Old Feb 7, 2012 | 10:17 PM
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IF you sell the 9 inch I would buy it depending on price. I need one bad
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Old Feb 7, 2012 | 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Big Al
What are your plans for the car long term? The S60 is going to lock you into the ratio you buy it with. Can't help with your other questions, but you should try to look down the road and plan ahead. To decide what carrier and ratio you want you need to know where you want to end up.

Al 95 Z28 w/S60
can you please elaborate as to why you are locked into the ratio you buy it with?

thanks
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Old Feb 7, 2012 | 11:51 PM
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With a 9" you can change the 3rd Member out in an hour easy. Not so with an S60. You are not "stuck" with any one ratio with an S60 per say but you're not changing it within an hour that's for sure!

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Old Feb 7, 2012 | 11:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Big Al
What are your plans for the car long term? The S60 is going to lock you into the ratio you buy it with. Can't help with your other questions, but you should try to look down the road and plan ahead. To decide what carrier and ratio you want you need to know where you want to end up.

Al 95 Z28 w/S60
WTF are you smoking?
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Old Feb 8, 2012 | 02:12 AM
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I dont think i would be locked into any ratio. Anything can be swapped one way or another.
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The UMI torque arm will bolt to both the 9" and S60. On the S60, for best clearance you will want to cut off the first set of holes and use the inner holes for better clearance. The outer holes will work but if the car is lowered it crowds the tunnel area.

I hope that helps you some!
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Driveshaft will need to be shorten to switch to a dana. My dana had gear noise too FYI, it had a tru trac with3.54s and putting down 600rwhp. I am switching to a MWC 9 cause the dana is a heavy SOB, weighed 220lbs with fluid completely assembled (no brakes).
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Originally Posted by 99_Z_155
Will my UMI short tunnel brace torque arm that is on this moser work with the S60? it seems they are the same style and bolt configuration, so i thought it might. if it doesnt, im guessing its a pretty slight difference. Also, will my driveshaft be rougly the same length for that application? (dont have the measurement at the moment, but i think it has the 1350 yoke on it at the moment).

Yeaps, it'll work. That's what I have on my car. There is a clearance issue though, but that is easily remedied by cutting off the 1st set of holes like Ryan said. Or you can hammer the underside of your car, whichever you think is more fun (but if you use the hammer method the seat belt bolt from the left rear passenger seat may sometimes rub on the torque arm.)

And Transam is right. That **** is pretty heavy...heavy duty
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I am hoping to lose over 50lbs by switching to a fab 9, trq arm, and ARB from MWC over my s60. Plus switching out the steel driveshaft for aluminum should get me to my goal.
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Thanks for the info guys. Im giving up on any quiet gears. ever. haha
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With a short chassis mount torque arm, you might as well forget it anyhow. Back before my mwc 9, I had a short umi arm on a 10 bolt. With the factory torque arm it was quiet as could be. with the chassis mount itd sing all day long. Just the nature of it.
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Originally Posted by alans02z
With a short chassis mount torque arm, you might as well forget it anyhow. Back before my mwc 9, I had a short umi arm on a 10 bolt. With the factory torque arm it was quiet as could be. with the chassis mount itd sing all day long. Just the nature of it.
Really??? I've can't say that I've noticed my gears singing to me since I got the S60. I've heard/felt a lot of clunking when accelerating/decelerating at slow speeds, especially around turns, but on the highway my 3.73 have been pretty quiet. Now I do feel a decent amount of vibrations right under the seat when cruising on the highway though. I can almost pinpoint where the tunnel mount connects under the car because of that, but it's a high frequency low amplitude vibration, so it just tickles my feet sometimes if I move them close to my seat.
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Old Feb 9, 2012 | 09:45 AM
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Yes sir, blew my mind. I had to dd the car at one point and just tried swapping them out on a suggestion from a old chassis guy. couldnt believe it. The 9 inch with 4.11s is louder than the 10 bolt with 4.10s.
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My 10 bolt with 4.10s was DEAD quiet.
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