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Old 05-22-2018, 07:47 PM
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Well, maybe down south, that isn't an issue, but where I live (Minnesota), 1998-2002 Camaros and
Firebirds are VERY rare to be found. I'm lucky to find ONE in many a junkyard in the Twin Cities,
and by the time that I have found it, it has already been stripped pretty clean. The last two years
that GM made the Camaro/Firebird, they made very few of them, and by now, most of them have
been trashed, crashed, or simply worn out. If you can find one in your area for cheap, for parts,
you can make a LOT of money on it. Interior, chassis, trim, drivetrain, stereo, body parts, glass,
etc.
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Z28tek, good rearends for those Camaros/Firebirds are actually becoming quite rare and hard to find.
If you find a good one, especially a "Z28" posi rear end "cheap", I suggest that you buy it, because
it will only go UP in value. There are NONE to be found in my area. In fact, I bought a complete
rear end (supposedly from a 2000 SS Camaro or Firebird) from someone in Nebraska a few years
ago. I think that I got it pretty cheap, especially since the seller said that it had relatively low miles
on it (looks like it) and it didn't cost me very much back then (about $400 including shipping).
I plan on using that rear diff (3.42 Torsen Posi) to upgrade my stock open 3.23 rear diff soon.

Unfortunately, that 7.5 ring gear rear end doesn't hold up to a lot of abuse, especially if you increase
the power of the engine noticeably. Some Camaro owners upgrade to an older 10-bolt or 12-bolt
rear end, which can handle more more abuse.
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Originally Posted by AirborneCamaro
Very FEW, if ANY, V6 Camaros left the factory with a Torsen Posi..
As correctly mentioned by @FirstYrLS1Z way back in 2012 when this thread started, all V6 examples with the Y87 performance package came stock with a limited slip. Torsen vs. Auburn would be a matter of model year, but LSD was certainly a mandatory component of this package in the later years (along with a 3.42 rear for the auto cars, plus dual exhaust and sport steering ratio). I'm not certain if this was the case on early 4th gen V6 cars though.
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Adding to the ^^^ post. The GM parts layout catalog DOES NOT show G80 (limited slip) used with V6s' prior to 1998.
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I wouldn't risk it!!!
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Originally Posted by AirborneCamaro
Z28tek, good rearends for those Camaros/Firebirds are actually becoming quite rare and hard to find.
If you find a good one, especially a "Z28" posi rear end "cheap", I suggest that you buy it, because
it will only go UP in value. There are NONE to be found in my area. .
There's a few in my area, one at a junkyard in Syracuse, another in Rochester.
They both have over 120K.

You are right though, they are harder to find then I thought.
Usually even eBay has a bunch but I've only come across very few.

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Originally Posted by AirborneCamaro
Very FEW, if ANY, V6 Camaros left the factory with a Torsen Posi.
I bought a plain jane 02 V6 Firebird, didn't even have t tops but it had the Torsen carrier. You shouldn't post up things you really don't know about.
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Originally Posted by RockinWs6
I bought a plain jane 02 V6 Firebird, didn't even have t tops but it had the Torsen carrier. You shouldn't post up things you really don't know about.
Then you found a VERY RARE Firebird. Are you sure that the previous owners didn't "modify" that car?
I have owned these cars for 12 years, so don't tell me that I don't know anything about these cars, especially
since I turn wrenches on them quite often.
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Of the 16,845 V6 1998 Firebirds,3,895 had the Y87=23%
Of the 18,412 V6 1999 Firebirds,4,502 had the Y87=24%
Of the 14,678 V6 2000 Firebirds,3,128 had the Y87=21%
Of the 9,538 V6 2001 Firebirds,1,857 had the Y87=19%
of the 9,922 V6 2002 Firebirds,2,487 had the Y87=25%

1 out of 4 - 1 out of 5 had Y87,I don't consider that common.
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Originally Posted by AirborneCamaro
Then you found a VERY RARE Firebird. Are you sure that the previous owners didn't "modify" that car?
I have owned these cars for 12 years, so don't tell me that I don't know anything about these cars, especially
since I turn wrenches on them quite often.
It wasn't even a Y87 car, just a low mileage little old lady owned plain Jane Firebird. My 98 Camaro is a Y87 car and has the Auburn Limited slip in it from the factory.
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This thread has gotten silly. Let me reiterate: all Y87 f-bodies had 3.42 limited slip differentials, whether manual or automatic, Torsen or Auburn depending on the year - the exact same rear end used on M6 LS1 cars. How do I know? We have had five of them in the family from 97-02, one manual and four automatics.

If you're looking at V6 car for a rear end, you have to verify the Y87 code. If you find it, you're golden.
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Originally Posted by FirstYrLS1Z
Adding to the ^^^ post. The GM parts layout catalog DOES NOT show G80 (limited slip) used with V6s' prior to 1998.
Good info, I don't have any documentation on the earlier Y87 cars so I wasn't sure either way.

Originally Posted by RevGTO
This thread has gotten silly. Let me reiterate: all Y87 f-bodies had 3.42 limited slip differentials, whether manual or automatic, Torsen or Auburn depending on the year
Exactly correct. It was true in 2002 when these cars were still in production, and true in 2012 when this thread was started, and it's still true today.
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Originally Posted by FirstYrLS1Z
Of the 16,845 V6 1998 Firebirds,3,895 had the Y87=23%
Of the 18,412 V6 1999 Firebirds,4,502 had the Y87=24%
Of the 14,678 V6 2000 Firebirds,3,128 had the Y87=21%
Of the 9,538 V6 2001 Firebirds,1,857 had the Y87=19%
of the 9,922 V6 2002 Firebirds,2,487 had the Y87=25%

1 out of 4 - 1 out of 5 had Y87,I don't consider that common.
Well, perhaps that more Firebirds were equipped with the posi rear end than the Camaros, but there were fewer Firebirds produced than Camaros. I don't doubt your figures, but all I can say is that I can't find ANY POSI rear ends in the junkyards
anymore ( 10-bolt, 7.25 ring gear). I do have 3 torsen posi diffs in my garage, I intend to use one of them to upgrade my 2002 V6/5-speed Camaro with less than 34,000 miles, changing the rear gear from a 3.23 to a 3.42. I have a 2-series Torsen Posi for these rear ends to sell if you know anybody who is looking for one.
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Camaro figures:
Of the 33,715 V6 1998 Camaros,7,291 had the Y87=22%
Of the 24,706 V6 1999 Camaros,5,304 had the Y87=21%
Of the 25,042 V6 2000 Camaros,3,365 had the Y87=13%
Of the 16,156 V6 2001 Camaros,1,697 had the Y87=11%
Of the 16,971 V6 2002 Camaros,2,411 had the Y 87=14%

1998-2002 Camaro and Firebird rear ends are identical,so a total of 35,937 came off the assembly line.
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I'm not trying to get into a pissing match with you. I'm only trying to share what I know with the "community"

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I own 2 2002 Camaros with the V6/5-speed tranny. Both have the 3.23 "open" rear end.
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Originally Posted by AirborneCamaro
I'm not trying to get into a pissing match with you. I'm only trying to share what I know with the "community"

RELAX
@FirstYrLS1Z seems quite relaxed to me. He's provided some solid and very accurate info in this thread, both recently AND 6 years ago. You revived this thread after six weeks to mention that very few, if any, V6 Camaros had left the factory with an LSD. But, in fact, many thousands were built in this configuration as shown by the stats.
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Did 4 cylinder camaros come with posi-traction? Do they fit in other cars?
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I'm always relaxed ! Instead of guessing 'they made many' and/or 'they made very few', I posted the data available here on ls1tech.

post # 398 in https://ls1tech.com/forums/pontiac-f...l#post12704374

# 2 in https://ls1tech.com/forums/chevrolet...reakdowns.html
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weld it up and yes it will 100 percent work.


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