Gears & Axles Driveshafts | Rearends | Differentials | Gears | 12 Bolt | 9 Inch | Dana

Bolt-in 8.8 from Hawks Third Gen?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Sep 29, 2014 | 07:36 PM
  #1  
74u's Avatar
74u
Thread Starter
TECH Regular
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 406
Likes: 0
From: Rockwall, TX
Default Bolt-in 8.8 from Hawks Third Gen?

Anybody tried one yet? Any issues, or hidden costs? How much do they get for one with a differential?

Looks like a nice set-up.

http://www.hawksthirdgenparts.com/ha...ustom-lengths/
Reply
Old Sep 29, 2014 | 07:45 PM
  #2  
All Pontiac WS6's Avatar
On The Tree
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Feb 2014
Posts: 188
Likes: 0
From: Lawrenceville, Ga
Default

Interesting.......
Reply
Old Sep 29, 2014 | 10:42 PM
  #3  
bighamz28's Avatar
Teching In
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 18
Likes: 0
From: mexicali b.c.
Default

Call tomorrow....
Reply
Old Sep 30, 2014 | 05:30 AM
  #4  
hiltsy855's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (35)
 
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 1,148
Likes: 28
From: Iowa
Default

Now where have I seen that TA Mount LOL?
Reply
Old Sep 30, 2014 | 08:01 AM
  #5  
SparkyJJO's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Liked
Loved
iTrader: (11)
 
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 7,364
Likes: 85
From: Ohio
Default

Hm wonder how much it costs.
Reply
Old Sep 30, 2014 | 02:40 PM
  #6  
74u's Avatar
74u
Thread Starter
TECH Regular
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 406
Likes: 0
From: Rockwall, TX
Default

Originally Posted by SparkyJJO
Hm wonder how much it costs.
I just called them.

$2700 with a Tru-Trac posi, Moser 31 spline axles, standard width, customer supplied backing plates (or +$100). Plus $150 for shipping to my area.

Comes with a 1350 yoke so you either need a 1310/1350 conversion u joint, or have a new driveshaft made.

Three grand...might be a tad cheaper than the 12 bolt/9 inch/S60 options.
Reply
Old Sep 30, 2014 | 02:56 PM
  #7  
SparkyJJO's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Liked
Loved
iTrader: (11)
 
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 7,364
Likes: 85
From: Ohio
Default

Hm, part of the attraction to the 8.8 was a pretty strong yet cheaper rear end. I guess that's what happens when you have a company do all the fab work to it.

Still not a bad alternative to have.
Reply
Old Sep 30, 2014 | 03:27 PM
  #8  
hiltsy855's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (35)
 
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 1,148
Likes: 28
From: Iowa
Default

Originally Posted by SparkyJJO
Hm, part of the attraction to the 8.8 was a pretty strong yet cheaper rear end. I guess that's what happens when you have a company do all the fab work to it.....
Ya, plus if you're building one yourself you'd probably use the 8.8 carrier which saves quite a bit. When everything is new the cost savings isn't that great.
Reply
LS1 Tech Stories

The Best V8 Stories One Small Block at Time

story-0

Topdon ONE vs. Artidiag 800 BT2: Which is the Diagnostic Tablet For You?

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-1

Gas Monkey Built a 6-Wheel Ferrari Testarossa With a Corvette LT4 Engine

 Verdad Gallardo
story-2

7 Most Reliable High-Performance Engines GM Has Ever Built

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-5

Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-7

Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

 
story-8

Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

 Verdad Gallardo
story-9

Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Sep 30, 2014 | 03:41 PM
  #9  
guppymech's Avatar
12 Second Club
15 Year Member
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 1,621
Likes: 3
From: Chicagoland
Default

I paid $2700 and change for my Strange S60, 35 spline S-Trac with 3" chromo DS and 1350 u-joints. Their 8.8 is not a good deal.
Reply
Old Sep 30, 2014 | 03:48 PM
  #10  
74u's Avatar
74u
Thread Starter
TECH Regular
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 406
Likes: 0
From: Rockwall, TX
Default

Originally Posted by hiltsy855
Ya, plus if you're building one yourself you'd probably use the 8.8 carrier which saves quite a bit. When everything is new the cost savings isn't that great.
The tru-trac was a $100 upgrade from the stocker
Reply
Old Sep 30, 2014 | 03:49 PM
  #11  
74u's Avatar
74u
Thread Starter
TECH Regular
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 406
Likes: 0
From: Rockwall, TX
Default

Originally Posted by guppymech
I paid $2700 and change for my Strange S60, 35 spline S-Trac with 3" chromo DS and 1350 u-joints. Their 8.8 is not a good deal.
Where from, and how recently? $2700 w/driveshaft? That's a better deal for sure.

Hawks main pitch for the 8.8 is it's lighter, uses less power than other upgrades.

Last edited by 74u; Sep 30, 2014 at 03:57 PM.
Reply
Old Sep 30, 2014 | 04:21 PM
  #12  
dailydriver's Avatar
12 Second Club
 
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 4,273
Likes: 0
From: Bucks County, Pa.
Default

Originally Posted by 74u
Where from, and how recently? $2700 w/driveshaft? That's a better deal for sure.

Hawks main pitch for the 8.8 is it's lighter, uses less power than other upgrades.
Also, there are more choices for handling/cornering type diffs (Torsen T2R, Wavetrac, etc.) with the 8.8s, even though I know that is NO concern to 99.999% of those on here who ONLY care about launching, and going fast in a straight line.

The weight savings also helps with the handling as well.
Reply
Old Sep 30, 2014 | 06:01 PM
  #13  
guppymech's Avatar
12 Second Club
15 Year Member
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 1,621
Likes: 3
From: Chicagoland
Default

Originally Posted by 74u
Where from, and how recently? $2700 w/driveshaft? That's a better deal for sure.

Hawks main pitch for the 8.8 is it's lighter, uses less power than other upgrades.
I bought my S60 from Carl at CRP, he's running a special on it. https://ls1tech.com/forums/gears-axl...l-back-25.html
I got it 2 years ago this winter, Strange has not changed the price on it for years ($2290). That makes it a even better deal now than it was then. I checked my invoice and I paid $2697.00 for my S60 w/DS.

Honestly the weight is not a big issue. The S60 weighs 15 lbs more than a 9" about the same as 2 gallons of gas. Since I installed the S60 I've been able to run slicks without worry, cut 1.8 60' and my trap speed is up 2 mph over what I ran with the 10 bolt. The ability to run a better tire more than makes up for the extra weight and parasitic drag of the bigger rear.

I'll get off my soapbox now.

Last edited by guppymech; Sep 30, 2014 at 11:04 PM. Reason: Add Invoice price for S60
Reply
Old Sep 30, 2014 | 08:20 PM
  #14  
SparkyJJO's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Liked
Loved
iTrader: (11)
 
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 7,364
Likes: 85
From: Ohio
Default

Originally Posted by dailydriver
Also, there are more choices for handling/cornering type diffs (Torsen T2R, Wavetrac, etc.) with the 8.8s, even though I know that is NO concern to 99.999% of those on here who ONLY care about launching, and going fast in a straight line.

The weight savings also helps with the handling as well.
That would be more important for me as my car is remaining a street car.

Maybe my bud can help me with building up an 8.8 in the future at some point.
Reply
Old Sep 30, 2014 | 09:23 PM
  #15  
01ssreda4's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
iTrader: (96)
 
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 24,241
Likes: 89
From: Turnin' Wrenches Infractions: 005
Default

Do business with CRP, Midwest, or Brute Speed. Leave Hawks alone, bunch of jackasses over there.
Reply
Old Sep 30, 2014 | 10:58 PM
  #16  
JakeFusion's Avatar
Super Hulk Smash
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 11,258
Likes: 146
From: Pace, FL
Default

Agreed.

The 12-bolt is not a bad option for those wanting to keep handling alive and well as it is not much heavier than a 10-bolt. The issue is I wouldn't buy a Moser due to the torque arm mount and overall build quality. But with Moser, you do get differential choices such as the Wavetrac. Strange builds the better 12-bolt, but it costs more and only comes with the Eaton POSI and spool.

The ultimate choice would probably be a fabbed 9" which weigh less than any of these, is strong as hell, and has multiple differential options. And with one like the MWC Fab 9, you can run a watts link, which is big for handling.
Reply
Old Oct 1, 2014 | 12:18 PM
  #17  
badformulaLS1's Avatar
TECH Resident
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 965
Likes: 0
From: Miami, FL
Default

Originally Posted by 74u
I just called them.

$2700 with a Tru-Trac posi, Moser 31 spline axles, standard width, customer supplied backing plates (or +$100). Plus $150 for shipping to my area.

Comes with a 1350 yoke so you either need a 1310/1350 conversion u joint, or have a new driveshaft made.

Three grand...might be a tad cheaper than the 12 bolt/9 inch/S60 options.
Yeah thats nuts. Completely defeats the purpose of the 8.8 and everything that makes it appealing to low budget people. People who know how to do all the fab work themselves are building them for 700-800. Pay the labor and you can still have one ready to bolt in for well under 1500. 3000 is insane, but it's actually the kind of insanity I'd expect from that company.
Reply
Old Oct 1, 2014 | 01:03 PM
  #18  
ssvert99's Avatar
LS1Tech Premium Sponsor
iTrader: (26)
 
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 3,490
Likes: 5
From: Central Illinois
Default

MWC... We have the best deals and the best rearend package... the results and research don't lie!
Reply
Old Oct 1, 2014 | 04:59 PM
  #19  
dailydriver's Avatar
12 Second Club
 
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 4,273
Likes: 0
From: Bucks County, Pa.
Default

Originally Posted by JakeFusion
The ultimate choice would probably be a fabbed 9" which weigh less than any of these, is strong as hell, and has multiple differential options. And with one like the MWC Fab 9, you can run a watts link, which is big for handling.
ABSOLUTELY!!

But, that setup, with the diff I'd want in it, would cost 2x what this whole car is worth right now!!
Reply
Old Oct 1, 2014 | 08:30 PM
  #20  
SparkyJJO's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Liked
Loved
iTrader: (11)
 
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 7,364
Likes: 85
From: Ohio
Default

But, is it worth it to YOU?

The way I look at it is I'm never getting the money out of my car and heck I don't want to anyway. I'm keeping it for the long run so I'll do what I want to it to get it where I want, screw the "market value" as it is worth more than that to me.

Unless they are classics, cars always depreciate and modding them almost never increases value either, so whatever.
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:30 AM.

story-0
Topdon ONE vs. Artidiag 800 BT2: Which is the Diagnostic Tablet For You?

Slideshow: We take a close look at the ONE and Artidiag 800BT2 diagnostic tools from Topdon and the reasons to buy one over the other.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-28 11:05:11


VIEW MORE
story-1
Gas Monkey Built a 6-Wheel Ferrari Testarossa With a Corvette LT4 Engine

Slideshow: The controversial Ferrari F6 swaps its original flat-12 for a Corvette Z06-derived LT4 V8 and sends power to four rear wheels through a custom-built drivetrain.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-26 18:23:54


VIEW MORE
story-2
7 Most Reliable High-Performance Engines GM Has Ever Built

Slideshow:These GM engines didn't just make huge power, they survived abuse, boost, track days, and six-digit mileage with a reputation for refusing to quit.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-21 16:45:27


VIEW MORE
story-3
Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

Slideshow: This heavily modified 1971 Camaro mixes classic muscle car styling with a fifth-generation Camaro interior and modern LS3 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:06:42


VIEW MORE
story-4
6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

Slideshow: From wobbling harmonic balancers to failed EBCMs, these are the issues that define long-term C5 ownership and what repairs typically involve.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-07 18:44:57


VIEW MORE
story-5
Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

Slideshow: A modern Camaro transformed into a retro icon, this limited-run "Bandit" build blends nostalgia with brute force in a way few revivals manage.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-21 13:57:02


VIEW MORE
story-6
Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

Slideshow: Cadillac didn't just crash the high-performance luxury vehicle party, it showed up loud, supercharged, and occasionally a little unhinged...

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-16 10:05:15


VIEW MORE
story-7
Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

Slideshow: Top ten most powerful Chevy trucks ever made

By | 2026-03-25 09:22:26


VIEW MORE
story-8
Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

Slideshow: Hennessey has turned the Silverado ZR2 into a 700-hp off-road monster with supercharged V8 power and a limited production run.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-24 18:57:52


VIEW MORE
story-9
Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

Slideshow: A one-off sports car that looks like a vintage Italian exotic-but hides a C6 Corvette underneath-just sold for the price of a new mid-engine Corvette.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-23 18:53:41


VIEW MORE