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Old Jul 10, 2005 | 03:22 PM
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ok, a few months ago i had 3.73s put in, and everything has been fine. the guy told me to wait at least 1000 miles before i switched over to synthetic gear oil. its been a little more than that, and on my way back from keller last night my rear started to howl and wine VERY LOUD. there is no ratcheting or grinding noise. i guess we are going to pull the cover off and see whats up.

any ideas guys? hopefully that dont involve the ring and pinion being messed up? is it at all possible that its only the bearings?

i guess the worst part is that the guy at the shop told me AFTER the install that there is no warranty. they dont warranty out work when its going to be beaten on, and i have a "race car"

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Old Jul 10, 2005 | 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by luvmeZ28
ok, a few months ago i had 3.73s put in, and everything has been fine. the guy told me to wait at least 1000 miles before i switched over to synthetic gear oil. its been a little more than that, and on my way back from keller last night my rear started to howl and wine VERY LOUD. there is no ratcheting or grinding noise. i guess we are going to pull the cover off and see whats up.

any ideas guys? hopefully that dont involve the ring and pinion being messed up? is it at all possible that its only the bearings?

i guess the worst part is that the guy at the shop told me AFTER the install that there is no warranty. they dont warranty out work when its going to be beaten on, and i have a "race car"

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Its probably the gears, maybe the installer
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Old Jul 10, 2005 | 11:52 PM
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Have you checked the fluid level?
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Old Jul 11, 2005 | 12:46 AM
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took the cover off. a decent amount of shavings on the magnet, the gears didnt look noticeably worn. went ahead and changed the fluid, in false hopes that the problem is fixed.

another rear end build, yipee! so many better things i could waste my money on!
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Old Jul 11, 2005 | 07:36 PM
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anyone think its possible its the posi unit?
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Old Jul 11, 2005 | 08:09 PM
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anyone think its possible its the posi unit?
Get rid of that P.O.S. and get a 12bolt, if you can. You'll be glad you did.

I just did.
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Get rid of that P.O.S. and get a 12bolt, if you can. You'll be glad you did.

I just did.
Where did you get your 12 bolt from, and if you dont mind my asking about how much was it?

Anthony, Just drive the MF'er till it breaks, all the while saving up for a 12bolt. I'll help you with a rear end swap once the beater breaks
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i would really love to, and i guess i will try that. i dont want to waste another 500 on a gear install. i may have some tricks up my sleeve.
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i would really love to, and i guess i will try that. i dont want to waste another 500 on a gear install. i may have some tricks up my sleeve.
another 500$ is 25% of cost of a 12bolt
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another 500$ is 25% of cost of a 12bolt
i know man, and if i spend another 500, thats half of a 12 bolt, and money that has been wasted, horribly! i need to find a way to get it before my rear goes!
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i had the same problem, brought it to the dealer and they replaced 2 worn pinion bearings. Although i still get a whin at about 60mph regardless of gear, and only when under load. Brought it back into the dealer and told me there is nothin wrong with the rear end, but just to keep an eye on it. boy lemme tell ya tho, its definitly annoying!
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i had the same problem, brought it to the dealer and they replaced 2 worn pinion bearings. Although i still get a whin at about 60mph regardless of gear, and only when under load. Brought it back into the dealer and told me there is nothin wrong with the rear end, but just to keep an eye on it. boy lemme tell ya tho, its definitly annoying!
how long has it been like that?
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Old Jul 17, 2005 | 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Jadedst
i had the same problem, brought it to the dealer and they replaced 2 worn pinion bearings. Although i still get a whin at about 60mph regardless of gear, and only when under load. Brought it back into the dealer and told me there is nothin wrong with the rear end, but just to keep an eye on it. boy lemme tell ya tho, its definitly annoying!
what dealer did this?...i had same thing done at key pont with same trouble now...whines like a bitch @ 60
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12 bolt will solve many a problems. Expensive, but cheap
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12 bolt will solve many a problems. Expensive, but cheap
that makes sense i dont want to waste anymore money.
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69Yenko - it has been doin this ever since i bought the car a few months ago

99PontTA - Westwood Chevy in Westwood NJ

The car is still under the original factory warrenty, the reasoning they gave me for the continued noise is that since there isnt much in the way of sound deadening material in the back of the car, i will hear any noise. Although i am still skeptical since its only right around 60, and its only under load.... any thoughts?
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69Yenko - it has been doin this ever since i bought the car a few months ago

99PontTA - Westwood Chevy in Westwood NJ

The car is still under the original factory warrenty, the reasoning they gave me for the continued noise is that since there isnt much in the way of sound deadening material in the back of the car, i will hear any noise. Although i am still skeptical since its only right around 60, and its only under load.... any thoughts?
if its under gactory warranty they should fix it....the ring and pinion are off a bit...causes the noise....key pont is gonna be in court over this...once i get it fixed i'm filing against them...fk um
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Old Jul 20, 2005 | 11:48 AM
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im just really surprised that after TWO visits there they havent been able to fix it. i think im just going to bring it somewhere else before i head back to school for the semester. hopefully thrid time is a charm....
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im just really surprised that after TWO visits there they havent been able to fix it. i think im just going to bring it somewhere else before i head back to school for the semester. hopefully thrid time is a charm....
the're probably just trying the quick fixes to see if that will work. take it back and tell them its still doing it, new gears and bearings. the rear end whining is not normal, and shouldnt be passed by them saying there isnt much sound deadening back there. i have my back seat removed which i one less layer of insulation between my ears and the rearend and i cant hear anything. the only F-body out of the few im around regulary that makes any noise from the rearend is luvmeZ28's and his is screwed up.
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what dealer did this?...i had same thing done at key pont with same trouble now...whines like a bitch @ 60
FWIW here's my experience with a similar problem.

Odd coincidence, I bought my 99 TA from Key Pont (I'm from Allentown originally) in Dec 2003. During the test drive I had a howling from the rear, and they fixed it before I bought it. They claimed to have swapped the ring, pinion, and posi unit which seemed to fix it. It took them a while, claiming the gears they were getting weren't cut right. The howl was gone for a while, but the driveline is getting a bit noisy now with some howling at speed under load and some other various noises. I admit, my poly tranny bushing and Kirban shifter add to the noise so I'm not all that worried for now. Besides, when the 10-bolt goes...good riddence!!

Joe
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