9" on a budget
9" on a budget I'm thinking about buying a moser 9" housing with axles, from speed engineering, and throwing in this center section. ( http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/9-inc...spagenameZWDVW )
I think it's gonna run me about $1500 when it is all said and done. Has any one else done this? Would a ford 9" be over kill for me? I have a 99 Z-28 M6 with full length pacesetters, off road y-pipe, cutout, free mods, 160 stat, slp lid, and spec 3 clutch. I haven't taken my car to the track since I blew the rear with drag radials last year.
I think it's gonna run me about $1500 when it is all said and done. Has any one else done this? Would a ford 9" be over kill for me? I have a 99 Z-28 M6 with full length pacesetters, off road y-pipe, cutout, free mods, 160 stat, slp lid, and spec 3 clutch. I haven't taken my car to the track since I blew the rear with drag radials last year.
I looked into doing something like that also. The problem with that centersection is that its not a nodular case, so it's not exactly the strongest thing out there. I dont know if you drag race or not, but I have seen plenty of people on slicks break those centersections (do a search for broken 9"). The posi isn't the best choice for drag racing either, especially if you have a manual.
On the other hand, if you don't drag race a lot, it may work just fine. I'll let someone else answer that for sure since I don't really know.
On the other hand, if you don't drag race a lot, it may work just fine. I'll let someone else answer that for sure since I don't really know.
I plan on drag racing once I get this rear, otherwise I wouldn't see a point in putting it a 9". I will do a search and see what I find on this posi unit. I have a hard time believing that it can't hold up to a bolton LS1, I figure anything would be better than the 7.5" 10 bolt. Thanks for the reply, keep em coming.
I think I found a better deal, ( http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Ford-...spagenameZWDVW )
this one is rated up to 450 horsepower, which is plenty for my current set up, and is a little cheaper than the other one. Has any one else had a Torque-Lock Posi in their 9"?
this one is rated up to 450 horsepower, which is plenty for my current set up, and is a little cheaper than the other one. Has any one else had a Torque-Lock Posi in their 9"?
I'm doing this right now. I got all my stuff from Quick Performance on ebay as the even beat Moser's price on the Moser axle/housing kit. Strange S-series case, Motive gears, etc. I'll have to assemble and set up the gears myself but its not rocket science.
Originally Posted by Chris 96 WS6
I'm doing this right now. I got all my stuff from Quick Performance on ebay as the even beat Moser's price on the Moser axle/housing kit. Strange S-series case, Motive gears, etc. I'll have to assemble and set up the gears myself but its not rocket science.
Here the details on what I got from Quick Perf & Cost. The only thing not from them is the posi, which I bought off a friend.
http://www.ls1lt1.com/forum/showthread.php?t=204
http://www.ls1lt1.com/forum/showthread.php?t=204
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Originally Posted by mooreperformance
I think I found a better deal, ( http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Ford-...spagenameZWDVW )
this one is rated up to 450 horsepower, which is plenty for my current set up, and is a little cheaper than the other one. Has any one else had a Torque-Lock Posi in their 9"?
this one is rated up to 450 horsepower, which is plenty for my current set up, and is a little cheaper than the other one. Has any one else had a Torque-Lock Posi in their 9"?
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Originally Posted by Turo
I looked into doing something like that also. The problem with that centersection is that its not a nodular case, so it's not exactly the strongest thing out there. I dont know if you drag race or not, but I have seen plenty of people on slicks break those centersections (do a search for broken 9"). The posi isn't the best choice for drag racing either, especially if you have a manual.
On the other hand, if you don't drag race a lot, it may work just fine. I'll let someone else answer that for sure since I don't really know.
On the other hand, if you don't drag race a lot, it may work just fine. I'll let someone else answer that for sure since I don't really know.
It seems like you gave up this which is too bad. Like I mentioned earlier my car is only a bolton LS1 for now, but I do plan on camming it with a tsp 224 later down the road. If I just went with the moser housing and axles from speed engineering it would only cost me $1020 and that's with the exciter rings for abs. If I did a center section off of e-bay it will only be another $500 and it's rated up too 450 horsepower and has a year warranty. I am a little sketchy about the center section so I may upgrade to the nodular case ($225) and a detriot locker ($475) , 4.11 gears ($125), install kit ($90), bringing my total to $1935 with out shipping. Then I would just need to get the sway bar mount kit and then I think I should be good. I could go with the bigger yoke and stronger drive shaft but then again I am prolly only making 330 horses to the wheels right now, so I think I will be ok. What are some other opinions?
Last edited by mooreperformance; Aug 28, 2005 at 02:51 PM.
IMO just buy the best parts you can afford. You may only be making 330 now but what about in 2 yrs? I'd rather spend more now than have to buy the same parts twice when you end up having to upgrade for more power later on.
Originally Posted by Chris 96 WS6
IMO just buy the best parts you can afford. You may only be making 330 now but what about in 2 yrs? I'd rather spend more now than have to buy the same parts twice when you end up having to upgrade for more power later on.
Originally Posted by mooreperformance
O.K. I finally found your post when you tried doing this. https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthrea...hlight=broke+9
It seems like you gave up this which is too bad...
It seems like you gave up this which is too bad...
.So far I have found a place that builds the 9" exactly how I want it for about 2175 completely assembled. Piecing one together will run me ~2000 give or take, I just havent made up my mind on which way to go.
Originally Posted by Turo
I haven't given up yet, I havent bought anything because I'm still researching prices, so definitely keep us updated on what you find out .
So far I have found a place that builds the 9" exactly how I want it for about 2175 completely assembled. Piecing one together will run me ~2000 give or take, I just havent made up my mind on which way to go.
.So far I have found a place that builds the 9" exactly how I want it for about 2175 completely assembled. Piecing one together will run me ~2000 give or take, I just havent made up my mind on which way to go.
I just looked it up, its 2175 plus 300 for shipping (DOH!) coming out to a total of 2475, I guess its still cheaper to build one. The place is driveline solutions (www.driveline-solutions.com), their Ford 9" street package.
sleepy_Z28 posted under topic Help me build, and buy my 9" rear. Pretty please? , I think he was going for this one though so I will go ahead paste this here. It's good stuff.
, I think he was going for this one though so I will go ahead paste this here. It's good stuff.
Hello, I'm new around this forum but I just went through exactly what you're talking about. What I did was, I went to the local speed shop that I buy all of my parts from and ordered a Moser 9 inch housing and axle package. I went with the 31 spline axles. That ran me right at a grand. Then I went to the local salvage yard and found me a donor salvage 9 inch rear for 75 bucks, then brought it home and tore it apart and removed the third member. I removed the gears and bearings from the third member and got it all cleaned up. Here's a pic of all the parts before assembly.............
http://memimage.cardomain.net/membe...767_79_full.jpg
I then took the housing to be powder coated red................
http://memimage.cardomain.net/membe...767_83_full.jpg
I had the third member rebuilt with 3.70 gears and a Richmond spool. I also decided to go with an adjustable solid pinion spacer and the the third member was powder coated black. I also bought a billet 1350 series yoke for it. Here's a couple pics of it completed. They're kinda dark, but you get the idea.
http://memimage.cardomain.net/membe...767_86_full.jpg
http://memimage.cardomain.net/membe...767_88_full.jpg
I have right at about $1700 in the complete rear. The custom driveshaft ran me another 250 bucks. If you need a differential in there, you can probably add another 200 bucks more to the total. Here's a couple pics of it installed.......
http://memimage.cardomain.net/membe...767_89_full.jpg
http://memimage.cardomain.net/membe...767_91_full.jpg
http://memimage.cardomain.net/membe...767_90_full.jpg
It's really not that hard to put one together. The hardest part was pressing the bearings onto the axles, but you could have a machine shop do it if you needed to. The axle seals ar kinda tough to get installed properly, but if you take your time and don't get frustrated with them you'll be fine. It's not that hard to do, and for me it was one of the most satisfying projects I've ever done.
http://memimage.cardomain.net/membe...767_79_full.jpg
I then took the housing to be powder coated red................
http://memimage.cardomain.net/membe...767_83_full.jpg
I had the third member rebuilt with 3.70 gears and a Richmond spool. I also decided to go with an adjustable solid pinion spacer and the the third member was powder coated black. I also bought a billet 1350 series yoke for it. Here's a couple pics of it completed. They're kinda dark, but you get the idea.
http://memimage.cardomain.net/membe...767_86_full.jpg
http://memimage.cardomain.net/membe...767_88_full.jpg
I have right at about $1700 in the complete rear. The custom driveshaft ran me another 250 bucks. If you need a differential in there, you can probably add another 200 bucks more to the total. Here's a couple pics of it installed.......
http://memimage.cardomain.net/membe...767_89_full.jpg
http://memimage.cardomain.net/membe...767_91_full.jpg
http://memimage.cardomain.net/membe...767_90_full.jpg
It's really not that hard to put one together. The hardest part was pressing the bearings onto the axles, but you could have a machine shop do it if you needed to. The axle seals ar kinda tough to get installed properly, but if you take your time and don't get frustrated with them you'll be fine. It's not that hard to do, and for me it was one of the most satisfying projects I've ever done.
Originally Posted by Turo
I looked into doing something like that also. The problem with that centersection is that its not a nodular case, so it's not exactly the strongest thing out there. I dont know if you drag race or not, but I have seen plenty of people on slicks break those centersections (do a search for broken 9").
