Convert 4 channel to 3 channel. Possible???
08-09-2006, 06:53 AM
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Are you trying to put a 4 channel rear end into your 3 channel car?
You will need the reluctor ring for the carrier and the ABS sensor that goes on top of the pumpkin. You will need to drill a hole in the carrier for said sensor. So maybe like $50 or so?
You will need the reluctor ring for the carrier and the ABS sensor that goes on top of the pumpkin. You will need to drill a hole in the carrier for said sensor. So maybe like $50 or so?
08-09-2006, 07:44 AM
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Anything is possible for a price. You're getting into considerations that are realistically cost prohibative especially for any benefits that you'll see (essentially zero).
If you're looking to purchase a rear-end used which has a different ABS setup...just delete your ABS. You're brakes will not feel any different during normal braking. Actually, with the use of a proportioning valve, especially if you've changed brakes, wheels, tires etc, your front/rear brake bias is altered which you'd benefit by correcting.
We do manufacture a kit that enables you to remove the entire bracket and modulator replacing it with a proportioning valve to fine tune front/rear brake bias as well as a line lock for heating up your tires.
If you're looking to purchase a rear-end used which has a different ABS setup...just delete your ABS. You're brakes will not feel any different during normal braking. Actually, with the use of a proportioning valve, especially if you've changed brakes, wheels, tires etc, your front/rear brake bias is altered which you'd benefit by correcting.
We do manufacture a kit that enables you to remove the entire bracket and modulator replacing it with a proportioning valve to fine tune front/rear brake bias as well as a line lock for heating up your tires.
08-09-2006, 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by squealingtires
How much to convert a 4 channel rearend to a 3 channel(Abs only)? Any ideas?
08-09-2006, 02:28 PM
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The EBCM you have see's 4 channels not three, you can't just swap the two out and have it work like OEM. The pulse signal needed won't be the same either since the tone-wheels are different diameters. 4 Channel setups have 2 lines running to the rear-end independent of each other. 3 channel only has one line. You'll also need to modify the way the ABS modulator runs.
08-09-2006, 02:35 PM
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It just sounds like he wants to put a 4channel rear in a 3 channel car. If that is the case then it is a no brainer. Just add the reluctor ring to the carrier and drill the housing and change the hard lines. Ive done a couple this way with no problems.
It just sounds like he wants to put a 4channel rear in a 3 channel car. If that is the case then it is a no brainer. Just add the reluctor ring to the carrier and drill the housing and change the hard lines. Ive done a couple this way with no problems.
08-09-2006, 02:39 PM
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I think I read your question incorrectly. Thought originally your car was a 4 channel setup, not the rear. If the car is setup for 3 channel, and you have a 4 channel rear-end, then yes, the above should work. Probably run you ~75.00 unless you can find some used parts laying around. The sensor is 50.00, the reluctor gear is ~25.00. You'll also need the o-ring too.
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08-09-2006, 02:43 PM
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Roy...That's what I thought when I re-read it...sorry for the confusion.
Part number fwiw should be 10456115 for the sensor, 26029185 for the toner ring...still not worth it in my opinion...especially if this is a stock rear-end to boot. I wouldn't invest anything in that...unless if I needed it to sell the car.
Part number fwiw should be 10456115 for the sensor, 26029185 for the toner ring...still not worth it in my opinion...especially if this is a stock rear-end to boot. I wouldn't invest anything in that...unless if I needed it to sell the car.
08-09-2006, 08:40 PM
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And don't forget it's going to LEAK like there's no tomorrow. Guys, it's not simply drill a hole and put in the sensor. The ID of that "hole" is machined not punched out by a guy with a cordless drill.
The short of it is (see stick above too), you can put a 3-channel rear in a 4-channel car and use the factory ABS, but not the other way around. You have no provisions for the sensor, and it won't have a toner ring.
Ben T.
The short of it is (see stick above too), you can put a 3-channel rear in a 4-channel car and use the factory ABS, but not the other way around. You have no provisions for the sensor, and it won't have a toner ring.
Ben T.
08-11-2006, 07:09 PM
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Thanks for everybody's input. Sorry for not chiming back in for clarification. Just like Roy stated, I've got a deal on a possible 4 channel (the guy is looking into his records when he bought it for his '93 camaro; as he has never had abs or traction control funtioning) If it is a 4 channel then it seams possible to install the 3 channel components. The excitor ring will be different than my current 10 bolt, but could I use my existing sensor from the 10 bolt to the 12 bolt?
08-17-2006, 07:05 PM
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What does it take to put a 3 channel rear end into a four channel car? Just bought a Moser 9" used, it's supposed to have ABS, but my car has TCS. I haven't picked it up yet, so I haven't had a chance to look at it closely yet.
08-27-2006, 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted by keliente
3 channel to 4 channel just requires you using reluctor rings on the axles, that's it.
08-28-2006, 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by BorgX
Would the TCS work then? I have a 00 WS6 with TCS and have the opportunity to buy a 3 channel rear out of a 02 SS... I wasn't sure it was possible just by switching parts from one rear to the other...
09-08-2006, 12:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Duffster
. . .reluctor rings. . . . are those the little gear looking things used for magnetic pickup of the abs/tcs?
09-11-2006, 08:33 AM
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Interesting, I just posted a question about this, I have a three channel abs, but the guy before me installed a four channel abs, which is making my abs act weird as hell, so I took the fuse out, But all I have to do to make the abs work is add reluctor rings on the axles? How do I do that? and can I get them from napa or would it be dealer? Thanks.