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Old Aug 29, 2006 | 02:14 PM
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my US gears got 100 miles of heat cycle/break in the first 4 or 5 days after install. drove home from the shop for 40 miles 1/2 street 1/2 freeway the first day.

then i went on my merry way chirping 2nd and 3rd

no sounds, no wear pattern or pitting or anything on the gears.

these are 4.10's
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Old Aug 29, 2006 | 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by VaderWS6
My Strange 4.10's are quiet, but howl when accelerating in 6th and letting off the pedal in 6th.
So, you're saying they are quiet on the "drive" side, but noisy on the "coast" side.
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Old Aug 30, 2006 | 01:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Studytime
However, the break-in procedure I'm not sure I'll find a clear answer. Who picks the exact distance a gear set has to be driven before it's fully work hardened? I don't think there will be a clear cut answer to this one. Do keep in mind that I did say I DO use a procedure just not the standard "500 mile" procedure. My breakin consists of being easy of the gears and heat cyling them twice.

Also, I haven't set up THOUSANDS of gear sets like you are implying you did. I've also never installed a gears into a Dana/Chrysler.
Break in has always been a point of contention. My recommendation is at a minimum of six heat cycles. From operating temperature back to ambient. The point of actual distance isnt the question, but how much (load) and how long the gears were driven to build the amount of heat into the gear set, is. Heat managment and running temperature define the time. Not to mention, the amount of time in between the actual cycles is even more important. It has to come back to ambient, before the next cycle should begin. Specific metalurgy defines the requirement of temperature vs. time to work harden a given metal. Other factors are environment being driven in, type and weight of oil and specifically the time spent at a certain load to build the necessary heat into the gearset.

I dont follow or agree with the "500 mile" theory either.

And FWIW, a few thousand is not an implication, it is a fact. I guess you could say I have been doing them for a few years.... for various sanctioning bodies as well as the general consumer.
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Old Aug 30, 2006 | 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Studytime
So, you're saying they are quiet on the "drive" side, but noisy on the "coast" side.

Yeah, but only in 6th... It's so annoying when cruising on the highway.
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Old Aug 30, 2006 | 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by VaderWS6
Yeah, but only in 6th... It's so annoying when cruising on the highway.
I would venture to say it's doing it in every forward gear, but you can detect it best in sixth.

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Old Aug 30, 2006 | 11:14 PM
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put heavier gear oil in.. 145W or whatever it is.
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Old Aug 30, 2006 | 11:24 PM
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As an entry level performance lube, straight 140wt is the answer. Just the film pressure strength of increase from a 140wt oil is worth the $7 a quart. But dont skimp on some kind of Autozone/Pepboys/Kragen type of off the shelf oil either. Get a quality lube from those like Schaffer, Torco or LE.
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Old Aug 30, 2006 | 11:34 PM
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Originally Posted by jlaine
My Motives are silent in operation from what I can tell - I set them up properly and gave them some break in time before really being mean to them though.
I have Motives that are giving me the very same results. The break-in period is crucial.
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Old Aug 30, 2006 | 11:55 PM
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Here's a question... mine howls like nuts! (Moser 12 bolt 4.10 33 spline). If I were to bring it in to a shop, would it be too late to have it shimmed? How much would I look on spending?
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Old Aug 31, 2006 | 12:55 PM
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ChicagoTransAm, if it howls "like nutz" it is probably too late as you will more than likely have an appreciable wear pattern on the gears already. A set of new gears would be in order for a complete fix.

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Old Aug 31, 2006 | 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by ChicagoTransAm
Here's a question... mine howls like nuts! (Moser 12 bolt 4.10 33 spline). If I were to bring it in to a shop, would it be too late to have it shimmed? How much would I look on spending?
From what I have read, Moser sucks donkey nuts when it comes to setting the gears. I'm going to buy a Strange Dana S60 in the next few weeks, and I'm going to have a local shop set the gears up. OR I'm going to buy it from Driveline Solutions, and have DLS set the gears up. Either way.... I'm going to make sure they are set up correctly.
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Old Sep 18, 2006 | 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by y2k_ta
I have Motives that are giving me the very same results. The break-in period is crucial.
How many miles of easy driving and breakin time would you guys say is appropriate? 200 Miles?
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