I'm thinking about getting a new rear for my 98SS... but I dont have the TCS option on the car...
My car is for the streets, I go to the track maybe twice a year... How many people have junked there ABS system to go with the 9" rear???
Is the ABS your friend and something that should not be messed arround with, or is it not that big of a deal... Thanks.
My car is for the streets, I go to the track maybe twice a year... How many people have junked there ABS system to go with the 9" rear???
Is the ABS your friend and something that should not be messed arround with, or is it not that big of a deal... Thanks.
Guess I'll find out soon enough...sometime between now and when I accept delivery of my new rear end, I'll be deleting the ABS on my daily driver.
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I spent all that money to keep it when I got my 9" and I ended up deleting it anyway cause I put a taller tire out back. It's not really needed if you ask me, my car has skinnies on the front full time and I have yet to get them to lock up, and I have tried.
My Accord doesn't have abs either, I had a few close calls in that car, but you learn how to drive without it real quick.
My Accord doesn't have abs either, I had a few close calls in that car, but you learn how to drive without it real quick.
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until you find yourself driving with snow on the roads Originally Posted by 2001z
you will hardly even know its gone .
in my opinion, if you see the track twice a year, just get a 12-bolt. even in an M6 i would think they'd last a while. if you were running 10's and were on slicks hitting the track every week, i'd say bad idea, but by your mods you look like you're in the low 12's/high 11's, so i'd think it would hold up for a while. do you find yourself doing hard launches on sticky tires a lot? if you're always on street tires, you won't break the 12-bolt anytime soon.
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Many of you must have started driving after ABS was standard equipment on cars... lol
I don't like ABS, never have. I've always preferred threshold braking, which can't be done with ABS. Bob
I don't like ABS, never have. I've always preferred threshold braking, which can't be done with ABS. Bob
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I don't like ABS, never have. I've always preferred threshold braking, which can't be done with ABS. Bob
ABS was around, but my first car didn't have it, that's for sure. Learned how to drive on snow and ice in it, and it worked quite well. We'll see how my Camaro is without it.Originally Posted by Exotic Performance Plus
Many of you must have started driving after ABS was standard equipment on cars... lolI don't like ABS, never have. I've always preferred threshold braking, which can't be done with ABS. Bob
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No I started driving in the early 70's (72) and as you know no abs and I also live in south Ga. so no snow to worry with either.I spent about two hours trying to get the reluctor gear to match up good with my new posi-unit and just got tired of trying and ditched it ....no regrets
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I don't like ABS, never have. I've always preferred threshold braking, which can't be done with ABS. Bob
i'm only 18, dont like abs, like bob said threshold braking was what i learned and what i preferOriginally Posted by Exotic Performance Plus
Many of you must have started driving after ABS was standard equipment on cars... lolI don't like ABS, never have. I've always preferred threshold braking, which can't be done with ABS. Bob
While I learned to drive before ABS, (speaking for myself) I am not personally arrogant enough to think that I would be able to properly modulate the brakes in any and all emergency situations that I might encounter.
I have disabled the ABS on my car at the road course and tend to like it a little better, but that is a closed-circuit road course. Not the open road with a bunch of morons talking on cell phones who firmly believen I can telepathically know when they are going to make a lane change. Not the open road where braindead a$$holes think you don't exist and turn onto the highway in front of you. Not the open road where deer, moose, and other animals tend to be rather unpredictable.
Not trying to step on any toes here and certainly not trying to start a flame war, but when someone says "you don't need ABS if you learn how to drive," I tend to hear "I have no problem telling you to give up a safety device."
I have disabled the ABS on my car at the road course and tend to like it a little better, but that is a closed-circuit road course. Not the open road with a bunch of morons talking on cell phones who firmly believen I can telepathically know when they are going to make a lane change. Not the open road where braindead a$$holes think you don't exist and turn onto the highway in front of you. Not the open road where deer, moose, and other animals tend to be rather unpredictable.
Not trying to step on any toes here and certainly not trying to start a flame war, but when someone says "you don't need ABS if you learn how to drive," I tend to hear "I have no problem telling you to give up a safety device."
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And I think you have a very valid point. I had to weigh my decision heavily on what you just said, but I've also had the experience of driving someone's car whose ABS wasn't working because of a new rear end install, and the aggrivation that caused is not something I wanted at all. My new rear is on its way, and my ABS is on its way out, but then again, I'm hoping to not daily drive this car for too much longer.Originally Posted by Awake455
While I learned to drive before ABS, (speaking for myself) I am not personally arrogant enough to think that I would be able to properly modulate the brakes in any and all emergency situations that I might encounter. Thanks for all the input here boys... I live in Idaho and we have winters here.. YES... however I park the car for the winter because it's so useless trying to get arround in the snow anyway... it was a traction issue for me... light rear end, low end torque... the rear would go wild REALLY easy... So the snow reason is out unless I happend to get caught in a blizzard which COULD happen *here*...
I will "probbably" never actually throw on a set of slicks or anyhting... I'll stick with street tires... but I do have thoughts of upping the power each year... new rear with 4.10's...head upgrade.... and then the power adder probably go with the procharger... keeping the street tires on the car... is the 12" still a safe bet?
I will "probbably" never actually throw on a set of slicks or anyhting... I'll stick with street tires... but I do have thoughts of upping the power each year... new rear with 4.10's...head upgrade.... and then the power adder probably go with the procharger... keeping the street tires on the car... is the 12" still a safe bet?
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The max braking is reached before the point where modulation is required to maintain control of the car. If you are skidding or the ABS comes on that means you are braking too hard. Human error. There is no point of braking anymore than what your tires can handle. Know the limits of your car if you are going to race it.
You can brake just as well without ABS. Sometimes better without. Sometimes better with. ABS only helps if the person is scared and his/her ability to brake has been superceded by the difficulty of the situation. AKA, the person **** in their pants and stomped on the brakes as hard as possible even though the tires could never hold in that situation.
Anyways. The point of my post is that if you are the kind of person who is logical and doesn't freak out in demanding situations then ditch the ABS and don't look back.
You can brake just as well without ABS. Sometimes better without. Sometimes better with. ABS only helps if the person is scared and his/her ability to brake has been superceded by the difficulty of the situation. AKA, the person **** in their pants and stomped on the brakes as hard as possible even though the tires could never hold in that situation.
Anyways. The point of my post is that if you are the kind of person who is logical and doesn't freak out in demanding situations then ditch the ABS and don't look back.
LeddySS98, based on your stated use it sounds like you could get by with the 12 bolt.
Personally, I think if you want to keep ABS, you are less than a man 

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i was a weenie at first, then i got used to it.. but now its way more fun to squeal tires and watch the face of the person in front of you at the stoplight
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lmao now thats some funny stuff there lol never thought of thatOriginally Posted by brynnda
i was a weenie at first, then i got used to it.. but now its way more fun to squeal tires and watch the face of the person in front of you at the stoplight 
