Which is Faster? Manual vs. Auto
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I have seen alot in magazines and websites that the auto F-bodies are a hell of a lot quicker than the manuals because they can get out of the hole quicker. Do you guys find this to be true. I love manuals but if the general concensus says automatic, I guess my next F-body will be a auto with a 3600 stall converter on it
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The auto cars are not any faster.It's just that the computer can shift an auto perfectly all the time.On the other hand, a person shifting a man trans can make mistakes.I've had both.A4 good for drag racing.M6 fun on the street.
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Much more consistency with an A4 off the line for many folks. A good converter will give you an advantage off the line for many drivers: a lot depends on driving skill/setups between otherwise two identical A4/M6 cars.
I drove sticks for years,but I'll stick with the A4 for my particular driving habits.
I drove sticks for years,but I'll stick with the A4 for my particular driving habits.
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IMO the 6 speed (what i have) is a street warrior and the auto is the drag queen (just kidding, drag king). What do you do more of???
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Raughammer:
<strong>A4 is quicker.
M6 is faster.
Pick your poison.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Hahahaha Sweet quote! And so true.
All things being equal, an A4 will launch faster from a dead stop and an M6 will pull harder from a roll. So it depends on the type of driving you plan on doing.
Just so you know me and a buddy have similar Hawks and dyno similar crank numbers. We also clock identical trap speeds(~110) but he(an A4) is always about .2-.3 faster than me(an M6) on the ET side. You'll notice that a lot of A4 guys will evaluate their speed on 60s and ETs while the M6 guys concentrate mostly on trap speeds.
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<strong>A4 is quicker.
M6 is faster.
Pick your poison.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Hahahaha Sweet quote! And so true.
All things being equal, an A4 will launch faster from a dead stop and an M6 will pull harder from a roll. So it depends on the type of driving you plan on doing.
Just so you know me and a buddy have similar Hawks and dyno similar crank numbers. We also clock identical trap speeds(~110) but he(an A4) is always about .2-.3 faster than me(an M6) on the ET side. You'll notice that a lot of A4 guys will evaluate their speed on 60s and ETs while the M6 guys concentrate mostly on trap speeds.
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by buschman:
<strong>....All things being equal, an A4 will launch faster from a dead stop and an M6 will pull harder from a roll.....</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Untill that auto gets a Thruster Pro <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
<strong>....All things being equal, an A4 will launch faster from a dead stop and an M6 will pull harder from a roll.....</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Untill that auto gets a Thruster Pro <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by WILWAXU:
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by buschman:
<strong>....All things being equal, an A4 will launch faster from a dead stop and an M6 will pull harder from a roll.....</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Untill that auto gets a Thruster Pro <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">M6 with equal mods will still pull an auto <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
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<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by buschman:
<strong>....All things being equal, an A4 will launch faster from a dead stop and an M6 will pull harder from a roll.....</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Untill that auto gets a Thruster Pro <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">M6 with equal mods will still pull an auto <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Bad1le:
<strong>M6 with equal mods will still pull an auto <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
AJ</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Has not been my experince!
<strong>M6 with equal mods will still pull an auto <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
AJ</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Has not been my experince!
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I'll have to side with Wilwaxu on this one. An automatic F-Body with a Yank Pro Thruster converter (4000-4600) with a lockup switch is nearly impossible for a manual to beat if the A4 racer has the gears and comparable power. The YPT 4000 converter multiplies torque for so long, where a stick car cannot. Once the manual car starts to gain groung, the A4 racer hits the lockup switch and maintains their lead. <img border="0" alt="[devil]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_devil.gif" />
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Bad1le:
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by WILWAXU:
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by buschman:
<strong>....All things being equal, an A4 will launch faster from a dead stop and an M6 will pull harder from a roll.....</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Untill that auto gets a Thruster Pro <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">M6 with equal mods will still pull an auto <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
AJ</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">AJ is right. Anybody disagreeing is obviously bench racing and hasn't raced too many m6's with similar mods from a roll. BTW, I have a auto.
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by WILWAXU:
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by buschman:
<strong>....All things being equal, an A4 will launch faster from a dead stop and an M6 will pull harder from a roll.....</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Untill that auto gets a Thruster Pro <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">M6 with equal mods will still pull an auto <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
AJ</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">AJ is right. Anybody disagreeing is obviously bench racing and hasn't raced too many m6's with similar mods from a roll. BTW, I have a auto.
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My money is on the Thruster pro'ed A4, Like John said a while ago "Its an ON/OFF switch" <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Bob2of3:
<strong>My money is on the Thruster pro'ed A4, Like John said a while ago "Its an ON/OFF switch" <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
LAter <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Let's find the 2 cars that are local to each other and place a bet 'cuz I got the m6. The m6 is going to make more power at the wheels with the same mods. Power vs weight is what it's about from a roll.
<strong>My money is on the Thruster pro'ed A4, Like John said a while ago "Its an ON/OFF switch" <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
LAter <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Let's find the 2 cars that are local to each other and place a bet 'cuz I got the m6. The m6 is going to make more power at the wheels with the same mods. Power vs weight is what it's about from a roll.
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by 4mulaJoe:
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Bob2of3:
<strong>My money is on the Thruster pro'ed A4, Like John said a while ago "Its an ON/OFF switch" <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
LAter <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Let's find the 2 cars that are local to each other and place a bet 'cuz I got the m6. The m6 is going to make more power at the wheels with the same mods. Power vs weight is what it's about from a roll.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I got my money on the m6 also....Patrick G are you up for it? A full bolt on stock internal m6 vs. a full bolt on stock internal a4. How much?
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<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Bob2of3:
<strong>My money is on the Thruster pro'ed A4, Like John said a while ago "Its an ON/OFF switch" <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
LAter <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Let's find the 2 cars that are local to each other and place a bet 'cuz I got the m6. The m6 is going to make more power at the wheels with the same mods. Power vs weight is what it's about from a roll.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I got my money on the m6 also....Patrick G are you up for it? A full bolt on stock internal m6 vs. a full bolt on stock internal a4. How much?
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