Richmond or motives?
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Richmond or motives? Was going to buy motive 4:10's this week from TSP for 180.00 and the install kit for another 60.00 but saw someone has as set of richmond 4:10's in the sale forum w/ install kit for 270.00 shipped.
How do they compare to each other?
How do they compare to each other?
richmonds are noisy becouse thier teeth are cut on a harder angle, but thier strength is far superior to any other gear, but they do get noisy......but i didnt think richmond was thinking everyone is going to be complaining about rear end whine like a bunch of pansy asses on drag strip/ street cars, if they did they could have engineered gears to be quiter................but i think the majority of us are running 10 bolts, and with over 300hp stock plus mods i think the 10 bolt needs all the strength it can get...
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Originally Posted by LT14MULAWS-6
richmonds are noisy becouse thier teeth are cut on a harder angle, but thier strength is far superior to any other gear, but they do get noisy......but i didnt think richmond was thinking everyone is going to be complaining about rear end whine like a bunch of pansy asses on drag strip/ street cars, if they did they could have engineered gears to be quiter................but i think the majority of us are running 10 bolts, and with over 300hp stock plus mods i think the 10 bolt needs all the strength it can get...
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AAM's are the best. Motive second.
All this talk about richmonds being noisy isnt always true, plenty of them out there are quiet. A lot of that came from ther pro-gears and in the past they may have had some problems. They are more likely to make noise, but the majority of them are quiet. They also are not noticeably stronger either. There are tons of opinions of harder material and different gear cut angles, but the only gears that are significantly different are the AAMs with the 3 cut. Rockwell hardness on Richmonds and Motives will come out almost identical, and the way they are cut is also almost identical.
The plain truth is no gear that is say a 4.10 or under should wine. You start getting into 4.56's and such and it has to be expected becuase the pinion RPM is getting higher. I have set up plenty of gears in many different applications and unless it is a 4.56/5.13 in a 4x4 I do not expect any noise, and even in those applications you hear the tires more.
All this talk about richmonds being noisy isnt always true, plenty of them out there are quiet. A lot of that came from ther pro-gears and in the past they may have had some problems. They are more likely to make noise, but the majority of them are quiet. They also are not noticeably stronger either. There are tons of opinions of harder material and different gear cut angles, but the only gears that are significantly different are the AAMs with the 3 cut. Rockwell hardness on Richmonds and Motives will come out almost identical, and the way they are cut is also almost identical.
The plain truth is no gear that is say a 4.10 or under should wine. You start getting into 4.56's and such and it has to be expected becuase the pinion RPM is getting higher. I have set up plenty of gears in many different applications and unless it is a 4.56/5.13 in a 4x4 I do not expect any noise, and even in those applications you hear the tires more.
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Originally Posted by LT14MULAWS-6
...richmonds are noisy becouse thier teeth are cut on a harder angle, but thier strength is far superior to any other gear...
Nor does it have anything to do specifically with the GM 10bolt design.
Alot of the noise issues stem from set up issues. I have set up Richmonds dead quiet. I have also had a fair share of screamers... its really a gamble when using Richmond.
Originally Posted by tuffass
...Richmond or Motive...
Last edited by chicane; Apr 23, 2007 at 04:49 PM.
