12 bolt question, please help?
12 bolt question, please help? ok should i get a moser or a strange 12 bolt. and should i get 30 or 33 spline axles? TIA.
<small>[ December 15, 2002, 04:22 PM: Message edited by: LARRY01Z28 ]</small>
<small>[ December 15, 2002, 04:22 PM: Message edited by: LARRY01Z28 ]</small>
Re: 12 bolt question, please help? </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by WILWAXU:
<strong>You should call Jason <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">still want to do a little research John. I just dont go and spend 2 grand and not research it. you know what i mean. lol
<strong>You should call Jason <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">still want to do a little research John. I just dont go and spend 2 grand and not research it. you know what i mean. lol
Re: 12 bolt question, please help? </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by LARRY01Z28:
<strong>ok 30 or 33 spline axles guys help me out here.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">33 are stronger,so I would go with them.A fully loaded Moser is the same price as a Strange.Both are good rears.Some people have problems with the torque arm bolts on Mosers.Personally I went with Strange because of this and have 60 passes on it without one bolt loosening or a problem of any kind.
<strong>ok 30 or 33 spline axles guys help me out here.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">33 are stronger,so I would go with them.A fully loaded Moser is the same price as a Strange.Both are good rears.Some people have problems with the torque arm bolts on Mosers.Personally I went with Strange because of this and have 60 passes on it without one bolt loosening or a problem of any kind.
Re: 12 bolt question, please help? thank you slowhawk. have you or anybody els heard of anyone breaking the 30 spline. im just a bolt on car and i dont want to loose to much horsepower due to the rear end swap. ive been told 30 spline is less weight then the 33 spline. so i wont lose as much HP. is this true?
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Re: 12 bolt question, please help? I have a 30 spline Moser. None of the bolts have ever backed off. I've got at least 100 5500 RPM+ dumps on it with no issues so far. In fact I broke a u-joint rather than the posi. I'm really pleased with it so far! The torque arm fits like a glove too. Just need to make some more room for it in the tunnel because the nodular housing is much larger than the 10 bolt (no duh!). So it will rub a little bit when the suspension travels.
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The Bull
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Re: 12 bolt question, please help? Just be aware that a 33 spline warranty covers a broken axle shaft and a 30 does not. That's the only major difference. So if you do find that power becomes contageous it's probably a very cheap $100 option long term. Otherwise, a 30 will hold up fine.
Also, make sure you get it from someone who will setup the rear good. My Moser setup howls so damn loud that I could win a DB Drag contest without turning the radio on. We are tearing this gear out and replacing it as well as setting it up so that it is damn close to silent. Just some thoughts.
Also, make sure you get it from someone who will setup the rear good. My Moser setup howls so damn loud that I could win a DB Drag contest without turning the radio on. We are tearing this gear out and replacing it as well as setting it up so that it is damn close to silent. Just some thoughts.
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Re: 12 bolt question, please help? I have a Moser 12-bolt and I wish I would have bought a strange. Mine howls horribly and I just had it redone and it still howls. I had a really good shop do it so I don't know why it still does it. My bolts have backed out of the torque arm a few times now. I constantly have to tighten them, I even used long bolts, lock-tite, and lock washers. They stay tight longer but still back out. My buddy has a strange and runs 10.90's and you can't even here the rear end at all. Same size gear and everything, only difference is he has an automatic. I wish I would've gotten a Strange. Good luck.
Re: 12 bolt question, please help? </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by 98_WS6_M6:
<strong>I have a Moser 12-bolt and I wish I would have bought a strange. Mine howls horribly and I just had it redone and it still howls. I had a really good shop do it so I don't know why it still does it. My bolts have backed out of the torque arm a few times now. I constantly have to tighten them, I even used long bolts, lock-tite, and lock washers. They stay tight longer but still back out. My buddy has a strange and runs 10.90's and you can't even here the rear end at all. Same size gear and everything, only difference is he has an automatic. I wish I would've gotten a Strange. Good luck.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">thanks alot man, this is the info i want to hear.
<strong>I have a Moser 12-bolt and I wish I would have bought a strange. Mine howls horribly and I just had it redone and it still howls. I had a really good shop do it so I don't know why it still does it. My bolts have backed out of the torque arm a few times now. I constantly have to tighten them, I even used long bolts, lock-tite, and lock washers. They stay tight longer but still back out. My buddy has a strange and runs 10.90's and you can't even here the rear end at all. Same size gear and everything, only difference is he has an automatic. I wish I would've gotten a Strange. Good luck.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">thanks alot man, this is the info i want to hear.