Comparison between Vig.3200 and TCS4200 within!
Comparison between Vig.3200 and TCS4200 within! Got the vigilante 3200 swaped out late yesterday afternoon for a new TCS 4200 2.7str 98% effec. During light throttle the Vig.3200 would pull 2100 rpms vs. the TCS 4200 with 2400 rpms but on heavy acceleration with traffic i pull 3000rpms with the TCS 4200 vs 2500-2600rpms with the Vig.3200. The 4200 seems to kick the crap out of the 3200 from a WOT hit and will blow the tires with ease. My shift extentions with the Vig. were 4900-5000rpms but with the TCS 4200 i have shift extentions of 5600rpms <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> The car pulls so hard now with the TCS because of the power band with the B1 cam being so far up and gets there in a hurry. The lock ups with the TCS are smooth and quick and does not chatter or vibrate one bit.
Overall i am very happy with the street manners of the TCS and can not wait to get to the track to see some awsome 60fts. and ETs <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
<small>[ March 02, 2003, 02:28 PM: Message edited by: StreetStalkerZ ]</small>
Overall i am very happy with the street manners of the TCS and can not wait to get to the track to see some awsome 60fts. and ETs <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
<small>[ March 02, 2003, 02:28 PM: Message edited by: StreetStalkerZ ]</small>
TECH Apprentice
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 319
Likes: 0
From: Kentucky
Re: Comparison between Vig.3200 and TCS4200 within! Sounds excellent..
Ive been in an all out war with the converters.. lol
PT4400, TCI 4400, TCS 4200....
Where exactly did you get your TCS 4200 from and how do they compare in price to the TCI and Yanks??
Ive been in an all out war with the converters.. lol
PT4400, TCI 4400, TCS 4200....
Where exactly did you get your TCS 4200 from and how do they compare in price to the TCI and Yanks??
Re: Comparison between Vig.3200 and TCS4200 within! I got my straight from TCS. Talk to Derek and he can set you up on a stall for your combo. Prices will vary depending on how you want the stall and you will get a 3 year warrenty,along with a upgrade on the stall if you want to go bigger or smaller. TCS IMO for price,warrenty and customer service are hands down the BEST!
Re: Comparison between Vig.3200 and TCS4200 within! How can u compare a 3200 stall to a 4200?
There totally different.
I would expect a 1000 rpm more flash stall to be better, wouldnt u?Good results but you should compare apples to apples.
JS
There totally different.
I would expect a 1000 rpm more flash stall to be better, wouldnt u?Good results but you should compare apples to apples.
JS
Re: Comparison between Vig.3200 and TCS4200 within! JS,everybody knows that but not everybody has the luxury to drive a car with a bigger stall to tell if they want to go bigger or not. That is why im shareing the information about the difference between the two during daily driving. Now go eat one of those apples and read the post again pretending your trying to make up your mind to go bigger on the converter but your not sure you want it as a daily driver!!! Just shareing my info!
Re: Comparison between Vig.3200 and TCS4200 within! Good report.
I use 200 - 200 more rpm than you with my Yank 4200 but hauling around my battleship weight requires a bit more torque. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
I use 200 - 200 more rpm than you with my Yank 4200 but hauling around my battleship weight requires a bit more torque. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
Re: Comparison between Vig.3200 and TCS4200 within! StreetStalkerZ
That converter sounds great.Glad to hear about it. I also have a TCS converter but i went with the 4400 2.5 str. I also switched from the vig 3200 and am very happy with my choice.
Jeremy
That converter sounds great.Glad to hear about it. I also have a TCS converter but i went with the 4400 2.5 str. I also switched from the vig 3200 and am very happy with my choice.
Jeremy
Trending Topics
LS1 Tech Stories
The Best V8 Stories One Small Block at Time
Topdon ONE vs. Artidiag 800 BT2: Which is the Diagnostic Tablet For You?
Pouria Savadkouei
Gas Monkey Built a 6-Wheel Ferrari Testarossa With a Corvette LT4 Engine
Verdad Gallardo
7 Most Reliable High-Performance Engines GM Has Ever Built
Verdad Gallardo
Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin
Verdad Gallardo
6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them
Pouria Savadkouei
Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph
Verdad Gallardo
Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked
Pouria Savadkouei
Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!
Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP
Verdad Gallardo
TECH Fanatic
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 1,055
Likes: 0
From: Baton Rouge, LA
Re: Comparison between Vig.3200 and TCS4200 within! Sounds good Scott!
I'm anxious to see the track results.
One thing though, how much do you think you changed your shift extension with the gear swap?
At any rate the shift extension should be better with the TCS convertor. What do you think 200 rpms or so with the 4.10's over the 3.73's?
Good luck at the track <img border="0" alt="[burn out]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_burnout.gif" />
I'm anxious to see the track results.
One thing though, how much do you think you changed your shift extension with the gear swap?
At any rate the shift extension should be better with the TCS convertor. What do you think 200 rpms or so with the 4.10's over the 3.73's?
Good luck at the track <img border="0" alt="[burn out]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_burnout.gif" />
Banned
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 448
Likes: 0
From: South Jersey
Re: Comparison between Vig.3200 and TCS4200 within! How can you compare a 3200 stall to a 4200 stall? That's like comparing a Camaro to a Cavalier and saying the Camaro kicks butt over the Cavalier..well no kidding.
TECH Fanatic
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 1,055
Likes: 0
From: Baton Rouge, LA
Re: Comparison between Vig.3200 and TCS4200 within! 02blackws6, he can compare them just like he did. People want to know what the differences between convertors are and Scott is here providing some answers. We all know a 4000+ is going to be looser and Scott here has told us how much this looser this one is in this situation.
You should hesitate on these negative posts bro. Same to you JS. Ligthen up and try posting something helpful sometime.
You should hesitate on these negative posts bro. Same to you JS. Ligthen up and try posting something helpful sometime.
Banned
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 448
Likes: 0
From: South Jersey
Re: Comparison between Vig.3200 and TCS4200 within! It's not negative, he's acting like the Vig. is weak. Which it isn't. If i wanted to say something negative i could have told him the TCS converter is too loose, or that it isn't a popular conveter but i didn't.JS and I were just pointing out that when you compare something it has to be in the same class. In his comparision it makes it sound like the Vig. is a weak converter, which it isn't. and i'm allowed to voice my opinions as well, right?
P.S. Mike, when do I EVER post negative post? Unless you're talking about my bad experience buying parts from a board member. Do a search and look at my post. Most of them are questions about superchargers.
<small>[ March 03, 2003, 11:11 AM: Message edited by: 02BlackWS6 ]</small>
P.S. Mike, when do I EVER post negative post? Unless you're talking about my bad experience buying parts from a board member. Do a search and look at my post. Most of them are questions about superchargers.
<small>[ March 03, 2003, 11:11 AM: Message edited by: 02BlackWS6 ]</small>
Re: Comparison between Vig.3200 and TCS4200 within! Hmmm,What about this line in his post?
"The 4200 seems to kick the crap out of the 3200 from a WOT hit and will blow the tires with ease. My shift extentions with the Vig. were 4900-5000rpms but with the TCS 4200 i have shift extentions of 5600rpms"
All I was trying to point out is I would compare a 3800 TCS to a VIG 3200.That would be a realistic comparo,Dont u think?
If someone is gullable enough to believe a 4400 VS a 3200 isnt gonna better bring results then there not to smart.
He did go on to tell us about the looseness of the two verters and I have no problem with that.This helps guys make a decision based on good solid info,but to knock another converter that stalls ALOT less than the other is IMO wrong.
JS
"The 4200 seems to kick the crap out of the 3200 from a WOT hit and will blow the tires with ease. My shift extentions with the Vig. were 4900-5000rpms but with the TCS 4200 i have shift extentions of 5600rpms"
All I was trying to point out is I would compare a 3800 TCS to a VIG 3200.That would be a realistic comparo,Dont u think?
If someone is gullable enough to believe a 4400 VS a 3200 isnt gonna better bring results then there not to smart.
He did go on to tell us about the looseness of the two verters and I have no problem with that.This helps guys make a decision based on good solid info,but to knock another converter that stalls ALOT less than the other is IMO wrong.
JS
Banned
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 448
Likes: 0
From: South Jersey
Re: Comparison between Vig.3200 and TCS4200 within! JS, I agree with you 100% they are 2 different converters. But i hope he likes the new converter but don't knock the Vig.3200. It's a different animal.
TECH Addict
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 2,337
Likes: 0
From: Auburn, AL
Re: Comparison between Vig.3200 and TCS4200 within! I don't see where he knocked the 3200 at all. Everyone knows it is a great street converter. He was comparing what he had to what he went to. He didn't go to a TCS 3800, and it is stupid to bad-mouth his post because he posted up his findings.
Thanks for the info man. I'm hoping my TCS will put out that much shift extension with the new cam.
Thanks for the info man. I'm hoping my TCS will put out that much shift extension with the new cam.
Re: Comparison between Vig.3200 and TCS4200 within! this is my car the spec"s are in the bottom
what size of converter should I get it has a 10 boltw/3:23 but I'm going to change it to 3:73 <img border="0" alt="[burn out]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_burnout.gif" />
what size of converter should I get it has a 10 boltw/3:23 but I'm going to change it to 3:73 <img border="0" alt="[burn out]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_burnout.gif" />
Re: Comparison between Vig.3200 and TCS4200 within! Why would i knock the 3200 Vigilante???? It has and was a very good stall. If i remeber correctly i was the FIRST to every go 11s with bolt ons with the Vig.3200,first to my knowledge to cut a 1.5 60ft. with a Vig.3200 and the top cam only car with a Vig.3200. Now tell me why i would knock the converter?? If i had to replace the TCS (which i won't)it would be with a Vig.3200.
Mike,thanks for sticking up for me <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> With the 4.10s on the street i picked up around 200 rpms.
Mike,thanks for sticking up for me <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> With the 4.10s on the street i picked up around 200 rpms.
TECH Apprentice
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 303
Likes: 0
From: Chicagoland Area
Re: Comparison between Vig.3200 and TCS4200 within! I don't see where he knocked the Vig anywhere in the original post. He simply made a comparison on the 2 converters that he had experience with. I guess if you don't have a fair apples to apples comparison you might as well not say anything. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" />
