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Old May 11, 2008 | 02:25 PM
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What are some of the ford cars/trucks that i should look into, i would like to find a posi & 31 spline if possible, should i narrow it down to certain years/models? Any info would be greatly appriciated. I'm in the process of getting a housing/axle package from EPP.
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How much HP ? drag strip passes? the factory one suck... so do the posi's
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How much HP ? drag strip passes? the factory one suck... so do the posi's
It'll be mostly street & trips to the strip, i want to run stickys (MT radials) & get some decent 60ft. times, its just a bolt-on LT1, how do the factory ones suck? whats there down fall, i'm looking at a compairason to this 7.5 10 bolt , they surely have to be stronger then them right , i don't mind re-doing the 3rd. member, new gears/bearings & most likely a spool, but if i can find a posi in a bone yard, that would be great, will they be most likely in the trucks?
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Old May 12, 2008 | 12:32 AM
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Is this all i'm going to get is 1 responce lol, come on guys, i was sure i would get more.
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Old May 12, 2008 | 12:17 PM
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To clarify, the factory ones don't suck, but they will only hold up to about 400rwhp with 5500k-6000k launches. They will hold for a little while, but eventually let go. My buddy ran his for about 3yrs cam only with a very light camaro (stripper model that was gutted for racing) so depending on weight. You can check ebay also, or look on here. I found an aluminum moser center ready to go for about $680 shipped from a member.
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Thanks, i found a junkyard that will take 75.00 for a 3rd. member, it might be the C7AW-E 31 spline, is this a good price, or what should i pay for one?

BTW, i'll most likely install new gears & go with a spool, so that alone should crank up the strength would you say?
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That's a good price, but the gears and the spool aren't what's going to break. It usually breaks on the inside where the pinion comes through or at the bearings. It will be good though for occasional racing on sticky tires. You shouldn't have to worry about it. Unless you plan going to an all out drag car then you might as well spend the money and get a good one.
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That's a good price, but the gears and the spool aren't what's going to break. It usually breaks on the inside where the pinion comes through or at the bearings. It will be good though for occasional racing on sticky tires. You shouldn't have to worry about it. Unless you plan going to an all out drag car then you might as well spend the money and get a good one.

The most it will see is no more then 380-400rwhp with a 100 shot, most of the time it'll be with just a bolt-on engine with no more then 300rwhp, i just want it to hold up so i can lauch hard enough for good 60fts., so if this 9" can't hold 300rwhp then somethings wrong, all i know is i'm not willing to chance it with the 10 bolt. I was told by a few that even the standard 9" houseing is good for 500rwhp without too much worry.
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Check Ebay or a second chance race parts place and you'll find one for sure... It just seems retarded to me to put 30 year old JUNKyark parts in a performance vehicle...Just do it right the first time... It dosne have to be some super throw down aluminum 3rd member.....It seems people are always at extreme ends of the spectrum on drivetrain... Overkill or a band aid....
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Originally Posted by CTSmechanic
Check Ebay or a second chance race parts place and you'll find one for sure... It just seems retarded to me to put 30 year old JUNKyark parts in a performance vehicle...Just do it right the first time... It dosne have to be some super throw down aluminum 3rd member.....It seems people are always at extreme ends of the spectrum on drivetrain... Overkill or a band aid....
Whats wrong with getting a 3rd. member from a junkyard, what kind of 3rd. member would you get on e-bay, plus the shipping would be killer if its complete, i'll be rebuilding the whole thing with all new parts, the only thing that'll be 30 yrs. old would be the hull, not the guts, its not like i'm wanting to put a used 3rd. member in with old gears & all, just wanting the base hull to work with.
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I would save up a little longer and not opt for a soft iron 3rd member.....your doing everything correct IMHO with the exception of the 3rd member... you have stated that the car wil see 380 400 whp with a 100 shot which will put you close to 500 or over...failures will happen at the worst time... I know this from a few years of experence...hindsight is always 20/20 if you wanted to use only a few new parts like bearings or a ring and pinion then I would tend to agree with the junkyard theory.. but your soo close to having a kick *** set up dont let 75 dollars worth or iron 3rd member ruin 300 or 400 hundred dollars or driveshaft ,ring and pinion and carrier .. I have seen a pinion blow right out the front of a gear... H case with Iron Daytona pinion support 700 dollar motive gears and a 600 dollar locker... and it went right in the trash... only thing saved was the ring gear bolts.....
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I would save up a little longer and not opt for a soft iron 3rd member.....your doing everything correct IMHO with the exception of the 3rd member... you have stated that the car wil see 380 400 whp with a 100 shot which will put you close to 500 or over...failures will happen at the worst time... I know this from a few years of experence...hindsight is always 20/20 if you wanted to use only a few new parts like bearings or a ring and pinion then I would tend to agree with the junkyard theory.. but your soo close to having a kick *** set up dont let 75 dollars worth or iron 3rd member ruin 300 or 400 hundred dollars or driveshaft ,ring and pinion and carrier .. I have seen a pinion blow right out the front of a gear... H case with Iron Daytona pinion support 700 dollar motive gears and a 600 dollar locker... and it went right in the trash... only thing saved was the ring gear bolts.....
So what would be your advice, in all honesty, some income tax money put me at the 1000.00 i needed for the houseing/axles, but i just can't afford a 1200.00 3rd. member anytime soon, i did talk with a couple builders & they said a standard 3rd. member was plenty strong enough for what i'm doing & a hell of alot stronger then any 7.5" 10 bolt would ever be at its best, now when i said 500 HP, i ment 500rwhp is what i was told & running on 290-300 rwhp would be nothing for this rear (3rd. member) to handle with a full spool & a good set of gears, this won't be a drag only car, just mostly street, & very little at that, with some trips to the track, i know the best thing to do is build for the best you can get, but i just can't come up with that extra 8-1000.00 i would need, so i figured i was heading in a much better direction by installing a 9" then say installing nitrous & stickies & being stranded somewhere with a broken 10 bolt, or just being stranded with some stickies & hard launches, so i wavered the wallet, keep the 7.5" 10 bolt & hammer on it or 9" & hammer on it, but if i can find a stronger bare case out there for a good price, i'll buy it. i read to stay away from the WAR. case, but the others were good, but even after talking with (midwest chassis) he told me even the WAR. case isn't that bad & will hold up, but the others are stronger.
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Ok, i just went on e-bay & found this, is this what your talking about? Just spend the extra for a case like this & build it from there?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/9-For...mZ220232863819
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Yeah, that would be a much better way to go. All you'll need is the bearings, ring and pinon, and the spool which is what you would be doing any way. Atleast this way you won't have to worry about the any of it. The junkyard is the absolute cheapest way, but there are other ways that are better and only cost a couple hundred more. Your gonna love this setup so much you'll be glad you didn't cheap it out. Trust me. I just got mine a few weeks ago, went to the track last friday and I still have a smile on my face lol.
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Yeah, that would be a much better way to go. All you'll need is the bearings, ring and pinon, and the spool which is what you would be doing any way. Atleast this way you won't have to worry about the any of it. The junkyard is the absolute cheapest way, but there are other ways that are better and only cost a couple hundred more. Your gonna love this setup so much you'll be glad you didn't cheap it out. Trust me. I just got mine a few weeks ago, went to the track last friday and I still have a smile on my face lol.

Thanks, if i would have known about those new N cases, i wouldn't have even been asking any Qs on this, they even have great prices on spools too, i know i'll need a pinion support, but there just 85.00 & the spools around 100.00, glad i dug around
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