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Sep 8, 2009 | 02:28 AM

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Wasn't sure what all was entailed in the 2012 standards, but dang, no wonder these cars are weighing so much.

Yeah no ****... lol I doubt Ford will be able to do all that within 300lbs to have it match the Camaro

Sep 8, 2009 | 07:01 AM

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this "strengthening weight" will be offset in part by going to an aluminum block, 126 lbs iirc.

The current 4.6L motor is already an aluminum block. The DOHC 5.0L motor will be heavier than the current 4.6L SOHC, and the TR6060 is heavier than the current TR35 whatever it is. I would guess +50 lbs for engine and transmission alone.

Sep 8, 2009 | 07:22 AM

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This site and a few others say the mustang weighs over 200lbs more than the BMW M3 which weighs 3700lbs.

http://www.leftlanenews.com/2011-for...t-the-web.html

Sep 8, 2009 | 09:02 AM

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I never got the hype with the magical 5.0. It was a 200 and some odd hp motor, what is there to get excited about ??

Sep 8, 2009 | 09:34 AM

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They aren't bringing the exact same motor back, just the displacement into the modular realm.

Sep 8, 2009 | 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by JeaneZ28

This site and a few others say the mustang weighs over 200lbs more than the BMW M3 which weighs 3700lbs.

http://www.leftlanenews.com/2011-for...t-the-web.html

According to Edmunds, the M3 is about 3590 lbs, that would put the mustang up to about 3800 lbs. Sounds like they will certainly need the extra power to go with the weight. If that article mentioning the 200 lbs more than an M3 is accurate, the only real advantage the mustang had will nearly disappear.

Sep 8, 2009 | 11:07 AM

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Everywhere I've looked it shows 3706lbs for the M3's weight. An Edmunds shows 3704lbs.

http://www.edmunds.com/bmw/m3/2008/testdrive.html

Sep 8, 2009 | 11:13 AM

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the only thing that ford mustangs has ever had is the fact that they fill the rearview niceley....

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Sep 8, 2009 | 12:07 PM

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posted this in the other thread; heres a back to back dyno, new 5.0 compared to ls3

Sep 8, 2009 | 12:20 PM

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posted this in the other thread; heres a back to back dyno, new 5.0 compared to ls3

I dont have my magnifing glass do you have a readable link.

Sep 8, 2009 | 12:27 PM

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Thats not the 5.0 its the 5.4 and from what I could read the HSV was quicker. So whats your point?

http://www.wheelsmag.com.au/Road_Tes...late=domWheels

Sep 8, 2009 | 04:35 PM

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Everywhere I've looked it shows 3706lbs for the M3's weight. An Edmunds shows 3704lbs.

http://www.edmunds.com/bmw/m3/2008/testdrive.html

Well, someone pointed out to me that BMW lists curb weight with an average driver included, so if you look at the link below you will see Edmunds lists manufacturer curb weight and then the as measured curb weight. I don't know why they do that.

Check this link:
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do.../pageId=136254

Sep 8, 2009 | 04:54 PM

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lol also take a Look at the 0-60 times and 1/4 mile times.... That article has to be fake or the fpv gt weighs a ton! Stil a slow ford!l

Sep 8, 2009 | 06:30 PM

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Either way you do it the weight of the Mustang should top the Camaro.

Sep 8, 2009 | 07:17 PM

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I would like to see a new front end, wheels, colors, and a track pack.

I think it would be cool if GM decided to change the front stylings every year like the '67, '68, and '69 Camaro.

Sep 8, 2009 | 09:58 PM

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Thats not the 5.0 its the 5.4 and from what I could read the HSV was quicker. So whats your point?

http://www.wheelsmag.com.au/Road_Tes...late=domWheels

thats my mistake, falcon will get a 5.0 but not yet, I got mixed w/ this http://www.caradvice.com.au/32633/20...-coyote-spied/

Sep 8, 2009 | 10:06 PM

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thats my mistake, falcon will get a 5.0 but not yet, I got mixed w/ this http://www.caradvice.com.au/32633/20...-coyote-spied/

Sounds like its going to be a quick car. The only problem is the mustang gt wont be able to do the same do to the requirements it has to meet.

Sep 8, 2009 | 10:57 PM

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Still not sold on the interior. Until it's changed, I am not even considering. The Mustang, G8, and Challenger all have much nicer interiors.

Sep 8, 2009 | 11:18 PM

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They should offer a V8 with the interior options and weight like a base model V6. Basically a stripper model that would come in under the price of a 1ss. Right now the gen 5 is kinda tough on guys like me that want one but can't afford the almost 500 payment that comes with it.