12.6s Stock!
#61
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Stock or not, what it shows me is the 10 SS has the gusto to step to some nice bolt on **** out there in the race world. If its knocking down 12.6s in +1,300 DA lets just say it would hold its own against most bolt on LSx cars that see +1,500ft DA. Where I'm at, thats the lowest it will get before you cant hook to the cold ground anymore. Last time I checked, there is plenty of places across the US where the ASL is at least 1,000ft or more. So if your altitude is say, 1,500 ft ASL it needs to be down to like 58 some odd degrees, with decent barometric pressure and humidity below 60% to see that. Most of the US is going to be higher than that as far as DA, so imagine a normal fall/winter day in the afternoon and sitting at a stoplight when that car rolls up. Do you run faster than 12.6? If your anywhere near or below but still close to that time its going to be a long race into big jail time speeds. Thats a solid time for a filter/oil only car, especially an M6 from a dig.
Just wait for the bolt-on, no TM, stalled L99s to get going. Some headers/mids, torque converter/cooler, a nice HPTuners write and some DRs will start to make some other bolt on cars real sad if they dont hurry up an mod more.
Just wait for the bolt-on, no TM, stalled L99s to get going. Some headers/mids, torque converter/cooler, a nice HPTuners write and some DRs will start to make some other bolt on cars real sad if they dont hurry up an mod more.
damn skippy.
I just drove a new SS today and they definitely have a set of hairy ones
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Car isnt stock. STOCK IS OFF OF THE SHOWROOM FLOOR. I know that a K&N filter is a very small mod, but it still breaths better than a stock paper filter. So therefore its not stock. And as for the RP fluids....RP helps the motor/tranny/rear end better than stock fluid. So hes not stock...sorry...no need to get all butthurt about it.
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Car isnt stock. STOCK IS OFF OF THE SHOWROOM FLOOR. I know that a K&N filter is a very small mod, but it still breaths better than a stock paper filter. So therefore its not stock. And as for the RP fluids....RP helps the motor/tranny/rear end better than stock fluid. So hes not stock...sorry...no need to get all butthurt about it.
#65
The car must be have been lightened as well
My 03 Z06 is rated at 12.5 sec in the quarter bone stock
and it's a whole lot lighter car at 3118lbs Bone Stock
and running the ponies through an M-12 transmission
Something don't Jive here
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If everyone were to use that then:
1. Stock 4th gen LS1s running high 12s would be incorrect as they were typically rated for 13.5s by most magazines.
2. Stock C5 Z06s running low 12s (one in GMHTP magazine ran 11.97 bone stock) would also be garbage as you stated they are only good for 12.5s.
One look at the Torque curve of your LS6 vs that of the LS3 and you will also better understand how it can move these heavy cars so well.
#67
I think this is terrible logic to apply here....
If everyone were to use that then:
1. Stock 4th gen LS1s running high 12s would be incorrect as they were typically rated for 13.5s by most magazines.
2. Stock C5 Z06s running low 12s (one in GMHTP magazine ran 11.97 bone stock) would also be garbage as you stated they are only good for 12.5s.
One look at the Torque curve of your LS6 vs that of the LS3 and you will also better understand how it can move these heavy cars so well.
If everyone were to use that then:
1. Stock 4th gen LS1s running high 12s would be incorrect as they were typically rated for 13.5s by most magazines.
2. Stock C5 Z06s running low 12s (one in GMHTP magazine ran 11.97 bone stock) would also be garbage as you stated they are only good for 12.5s.
One look at the Torque curve of your LS6 vs that of the LS3 and you will also better understand how it can move these heavy cars so well.
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On SS models, the new Tremec TR 6060 six-speed manual is paired with the LS3. It is designed to handle the high torque characteristics of the engine, while providing shorter throws, smoother gear synchronization and greater overall shift feel with little or no vibration. Its specs include a solid 290 mm flywheel and single-plate clutch. The final drive ratio for LS3 vehicles is 3.45:1.
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Geez, LS3 + gears = 110 mph trap?
Good thing it's at least using 3 forward gears in the 1/4 and not 2, doubt it could get 105 mph using only 2 forward gears. Good thing it didn't get 2:73's like mine. All that fancy shifting sounds like work.
Good ET OP non the less with a 1.90 60ft? I'd kill for that 60 compared to mine.
Maybe I need some 3:45 gears, so I can get into 3rd gear too.
Maybe the words you guys are looking for is "off the show room floor, STOCK."
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>>>
On SS models, the new Tremec TR 6060 six-speed manual is paired with the LS3. It is designed to handle the high torque characteristics of the engine, while providing shorter throws, smoother gear synchronization and greater overall shift feel with little or no vibration. Its specs include a solid 290 mm flywheel and single-plate clutch. The final drive ratio for LS3 vehicles is 3.45:1.
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Geez, LS3 + gears = 110 mph trap?
Good thing it's at least using 3 forward gears in the 1/4 and not 2, doubt it could get 105 mph using only 2 forward gears. Good thing it didn't get 2:73's like mine. All that fancy shifting sounds like work.
Good ET OP non the less with a 1.90 60ft? I'd kill for that 60 compared to mine.
Maybe I need some 3:45 gears, so I can get into 3rd gear too.
Maybe the words you guys are looking for is "off the show room floor, STOCK."
On SS models, the new Tremec TR 6060 six-speed manual is paired with the LS3. It is designed to handle the high torque characteristics of the engine, while providing shorter throws, smoother gear synchronization and greater overall shift feel with little or no vibration. Its specs include a solid 290 mm flywheel and single-plate clutch. The final drive ratio for LS3 vehicles is 3.45:1.
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Geez, LS3 + gears = 110 mph trap?
Good thing it's at least using 3 forward gears in the 1/4 and not 2, doubt it could get 105 mph using only 2 forward gears. Good thing it didn't get 2:73's like mine. All that fancy shifting sounds like work.
Good ET OP non the less with a 1.90 60ft? I'd kill for that 60 compared to mine.
Maybe I need some 3:45 gears, so I can get into 3rd gear too.
Maybe the words you guys are looking for is "off the show room floor, STOCK."
Or do 3.73's, shift kit, and a stall and rape ***... but hate yourself if its a DD
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heres another one turning 12.6s with no mods, no BS-
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=60300
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=60300
#75
A drop in filter is a mod? The only benefit from a K&N filter is the ability to re use it. 5th gens come with synthetic fluids stock. Weight reduction + full bolt ons in these cars would generate a beast of an automobile.
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heres another one turning 12.6s with no mods, no BS-
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=60300
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=60300
Moral of the story is:
1) **** goes real fast in -1600 DA.
2) Who keeps anything stock besides the dork at the light who isnt going to race you anyway?
3)The LS3/L99 is a beast. Add a cam and bolt ons and you wont give a **** about no weak *** 12s.
However, to the career bench racers out there that live off of what other people do I say this: Most of the stuff you will compare this time to doesnt race in -1,600DA, just keep that in mind before you climb aboard the pube for a swing.
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so lets say i buy a 2011 stang.
remove the spare and jack. 22psi in the tire. high flow k&n, remove the silencer, get a 150lb buddy who can really race to drive it. and it runs 12.3. you guys gonna congratulate me for a "BONE STOCK 12.3"?
1. break it in.
2. put factory fluids in it.
3. take nothing out.
4. adjust tires.
5. run it.
THAT is bone stock. if a man got 12.61 with such a heavy car good for him. there are drag heros out there who get times nobody else can.
not calling BS.
remove the spare and jack. 22psi in the tire. high flow k&n, remove the silencer, get a 150lb buddy who can really race to drive it. and it runs 12.3. you guys gonna congratulate me for a "BONE STOCK 12.3"?
1. break it in.
2. put factory fluids in it.
3. take nothing out.
4. adjust tires.
5. run it.
THAT is bone stock. if a man got 12.61 with such a heavy car good for him. there are drag heros out there who get times nobody else can.
not calling BS.