Johnnystock

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By the way my friends 69 Pontiac Acadian with an iron SBC weights in at a 3200 pounds. Old muscle car werent that heavy; there was nothing except the frame, engine and body panels.. Todays standards are far different; lots of safety regulation and luxury too..

Anyway, find me a car for 31K$ that traps 111mph with excellent road manners, incredible V8 potential, and a nice design like that...for those who havent seen it in person; you didnt see nothing cause the pics dont do any justice. Ask me how I know..

If the LS1 is touched by gods hand, the LS3 is touched by what for pushing this 3850lbs to 111mph!!!?? Try to find a first timer 4th gen hitting 13.0 by popular mags!!!

Dont forget were gonna see 475rwhp++ Camaro soon guys!

Slash8915

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I must have missed something... What do you mean?

TriShield

It's all safety regulation.

"Luxury" items don't add a substantial amount of weight, nowhere near what a steel monocoque body shell and steel suspension components engineered to frontal, side and now rollover crash standards weight.

havocnmayhem2005

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I think it's pretty freakin great, with what we've seen of some dyno's done on LS3 Vettes and GXPs when new and after a few miles on them, there is quite a difference already. Then you take a look at those videos of the cars launching and see just how much tire spin is there, there is definatly a lot left in them. I would be willing to bet we see more than a few people pull off 12.7-12.8 in them and a select few running 12.6 or so. 12.6 is the record for completely stock 98-02 fbody cars(which is awsome), but I think we could see close to that with a lot of cars, not just one off's here and there. In the Motortrend test video, I was most impressed actually with the V6 manual though. 5.9 sec 0-60, and look at the spin of those tires when they take off! I think that damn car could see high 13's. I don't claim to know a lot about racing or cars in general, but damn, if anyone uses common sence they should be able to see how great these cars are and what they should be able to achive with minimal mods.

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383ss

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the amount of bitching about the weight is rediculous do you think 99% of buyers are going to give a rats *** that it weighs that? A 13.0 magazine car is fast as hell and most buyers will be blown away by its speed/handling. like others have said, 4th gens were mid to high 13's by most mags. bolt-ons, DR's, tune and I bet it will go low 12's, full weight.

for the amount of options, safety features, IRS, brakes etc... it could have easily weighed a few hundred pounds more.

I've said it many times before, GM hit this one out of the f'ing park. I'm just upset there are going to be so damn many of them on the road

Revelation Z28

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id love to see a way to have a 12 bolt under the rear and ditch the IRS.

plus lets see how well GM did with this rear when someone puts a MT or hoosier on it and a stage 3+ clutch

Johnnystock

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Just talking about the modding freak...475rwhp is just boltons and a cam away

Slash8915

iTrader: (21)

Oh, ok. I thought he meant they were coming out with a special edition version or something.

posz28

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Not bad. Put some stickier tires and there you go. beautiful cars nonetheless.

TT C6

The people NOT bitching about the weight are showing how naive they are.
A 3,900lb coupe is ridiculous.

kain01

I think we all agree its overweight. That aside it's numbers for that heavy of a coupe is still impressive. It is half a second faster than the 2002 SS was according to Motor Trend, so it should easily be in the 12's with a real driver behind it.

bbqz28

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Here's something else slowing it down. The car runs 52mph in first gear and crosses the finish line in the 1/4 at the top of 3rd. Change those gears to 4.56's and then run the car down the track. That is if there are tires that could stick with those gears. (btw, 275/40-20 tires = 29" tall)

http://www.automobilemag.com/reviews...a_0_to_60.html

RaggedRides

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Dear gawd.. Us fourth-gen fellows are going to end up like the chaps in your sig picture.

We're the new Irocs on blocks, mullet master trailer trash....

RPM WS6

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Don't get me wrong, the MPH is good, but the ET is not that exciting at all IMO. It's not much different than an LS1 F-body. I do understand that this test was a manual car though.

A4 + LS1 + '98-'02 F-body with lid, catback, stall, and sticky tires = mid-low 12s. I'd like to see the V8 5th gens with an A6 trans doing 12.50-12.70 stock.

Johnnystock

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Very first test is 13.0. Not impressive??? No body has tested this car for real on a sticky track. Do you think the Motor Trend driver were about to crack a record time on the first pass on a shitty asphalt road??

Wait until some sponsor or real track driver get it done before saying 13.0 is not impressive. And 13.0 is not impressive while its a full .5sec faster than Mustang n Challenger for the same price. What were you expecting? 12.0 at 118mph for 31K$ Go buy a Corvette and stop dreaming.
Were already lucky that GM did this one right and it still ended first in test. So maybe plp will buy more Camaros and itll stay longer in production..

Johnnystock

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The LS3 responds even better than LS1 to mods so I dont see any reason why it coudnt happen.

ZFan88

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Easy mid to high 12 second car, nice! And for the racers...pull the airbags and do the usual weight reduction, swap for a solid rear with 16-17" wheels with slicks...good to go

RPM WS6

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Wow, guess you didn't bother to actually read what I posted before writing a reply.

I clearly stated that the MPH looked good, but that the ET wasn't impressive. What's wrong with that statement? Are you saying that a 13.0 ET is something to get excited about? If so, you have some low standards for a 111mph trap car that's rated at 426hp.

My point was, I'd really like to see some test runs on an A6 model to take the driver factor out of the equation.

And who said anything about expecting 12.0 @118 for $31K???? Those were your words, not mine. My expectation for the L99/A6 5th gen is 12.50-12.70 @110-ish MPH. This seems totally reasonable, considering the last of the 4th gens with an A4 had little issues hitting low 13s @106ish MPH.

bballr4567

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Everybody is complaining about weight. Id gladly take 100-200 extra pounds in my car if it makes the car any less of a rattle trap. Remember the 4th gen was designed when?? 1990-91?? Just ridiculous. Of course its going to be light, the federal safety laws were pretty much non-existent.

The car handles and preforms FAR better than any stock 4th gen can ever wish.