question on camaro design????????
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question on camaro design???????? I am a camaro ss lover i have owned two, a 00' a4 and a 02'm6 h/c/i/e/n02 so i am not going to bash the 4th gen
but the 5th gen, 4,000lbs w/ driver??? are you kidding me???
okay so i sit down and think about the future and think about futuristic cars and the first thing that comes to my mind is stronger and lighter materials, lighter cars and safer cars
a lighter car will handle better, get more mpg, have a higher power to weight ratio and all around be a more efficient car
im going to be buying a new sports car in the next 2-3 months and im leaning towards the nissan 370z
the 370z weighs 3230lbs.!!!!! i would have to assume it handles alot better than the 5th gen pig and the interior looks alot better to me, alot more like a cockpit of a jet with the instrumentation
here are the numbers
370z.... 0-60 4.7 sec. and 1/4 mile in 13.3 sec.
5th gen "fat boy".... 0-60 4.9 sec and 1/4 mile in 13.0 sec.
did i mention the 0-60mph winner is a v-6???
and the 0-60 loser is a 6.2 liter v-8???
i would love to see a procharger on a 370z
i think gm said hey lets just make a 2 door G8 and call it the 2010 camaro when they should have said hey lets make a 4 seater vette and call it the 2010 camaro
any thoughts???
but the 5th gen, 4,000lbs w/ driver??? are you kidding me???
okay so i sit down and think about the future and think about futuristic cars and the first thing that comes to my mind is stronger and lighter materials, lighter cars and safer cars
a lighter car will handle better, get more mpg, have a higher power to weight ratio and all around be a more efficient car
im going to be buying a new sports car in the next 2-3 months and im leaning towards the nissan 370z
the 370z weighs 3230lbs.!!!!! i would have to assume it handles alot better than the 5th gen pig and the interior looks alot better to me, alot more like a cockpit of a jet with the instrumentation
here are the numbers
370z.... 0-60 4.7 sec. and 1/4 mile in 13.3 sec.
5th gen "fat boy".... 0-60 4.9 sec and 1/4 mile in 13.0 sec.
did i mention the 0-60mph winner is a v-6???
and the 0-60 loser is a 6.2 liter v-8???
i would love to see a procharger on a 370z
i think gm said hey lets just make a 2 door G8 and call it the 2010 camaro when they should have said hey lets make a 4 seater vette and call it the 2010 camaro
any thoughts???
i can see why you think this, and i don't like that the new 5th gens are that heavy too, but the camaro is made for mods, and most likely its gonna be 3x the $ to mod the 370z and won't get you as much gains. if you're worried about mpg both these cars get right at the same 16/24(SS) and 17/26(370z) if i were buying a car like that i wouldn't be worried about mpg all that much, im not bashing the nissan either, its a very nice car i've sittin in a couple and they do have a nice interior, but if i was you i would definately drive both cars to see which one you like better before just pickin up one or the because of the numbers. give the "fat boy" a chance and you might end up loving it.
but thats just my .02 cents
good luck with your decision
but thats just my .02 cents
good luck with your decision
You got your numbers wrong. 0-60 is 4.6sec for the SS. Not 4.9.
Yeah I agree on the weight thing (could be lighter IMO) except seems all these cars have gotten heavier...
And do we really need another weight complaint thread?
I wouldn't be caught dead owning a nissan. Screw imports.
Yeah I agree on the weight thing (could be lighter IMO) except seems all these cars have gotten heavier...
And do we really need another weight complaint thread?
I wouldn't be caught dead owning a nissan. Screw imports.
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I am a camaro ss lover i have owned two, a 00' a4 and a 02'm6 h/c/i/e/n02 so i am not going to bash the 4th gen
but the 5th gen, 4,000lbs w/ driver??? are you kidding me???
okay so i sit down and think about the future and think about futuristic cars and the first thing that comes to my mind is stronger and lighter materials, lighter cars and safer cars
a lighter car will handle better, get more mpg, have a higher power to weight ratio and all around be a more efficient car
im going to be buying a new sports car in the next 2-3 months and im leaning towards the nissan 370z
the 370z weighs 3230lbs.!!!!! i would have to assume it handles alot better than the 5th gen pig and the interior looks alot better to me, alot more like a cockpit of a jet with the instrumentation
here are the numbers
370z.... 0-60 4.7 sec. and 1/4 mile in 13.3 sec.
5th gen "fat boy".... 0-60 4.9 sec and 1/4 mile in 13.0 sec.
did i mention the 0-60mph winner is a v-6???
and the 0-60 loser is a 6.2 liter v-8???
i would love to see a procharger on a 370z
i think gm said hey lets just make a 2 door G8 and call it the 2010 camaro when they should have said hey lets make a 4 seater vette and call it the 2010 camaro
any thoughts???
but the 5th gen, 4,000lbs w/ driver??? are you kidding me???
okay so i sit down and think about the future and think about futuristic cars and the first thing that comes to my mind is stronger and lighter materials, lighter cars and safer cars
a lighter car will handle better, get more mpg, have a higher power to weight ratio and all around be a more efficient car
im going to be buying a new sports car in the next 2-3 months and im leaning towards the nissan 370z
the 370z weighs 3230lbs.!!!!! i would have to assume it handles alot better than the 5th gen pig and the interior looks alot better to me, alot more like a cockpit of a jet with the instrumentation
here are the numbers
370z.... 0-60 4.7 sec. and 1/4 mile in 13.3 sec.
5th gen "fat boy".... 0-60 4.9 sec and 1/4 mile in 13.0 sec.
did i mention the 0-60mph winner is a v-6???
and the 0-60 loser is a 6.2 liter v-8???
i would love to see a procharger on a 370z
i think gm said hey lets just make a 2 door G8 and call it the 2010 camaro when they should have said hey lets make a 4 seater vette and call it the 2010 camaro
any thoughts???
BTW 0-60 is meaninless, no one races for such a short time.
Take a look at a used C6, much better car IMO.
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not to burst your 370z bubble...but its about equal to a stock 2005+ gt ! dont belive here is the link http://www.allfordmustangs.com/forum...ustang-gt.html ....my friend bought the second 370z in Louisiana.... we raced 
if the camaro was designed to be a 2 seater v6 sports car, then i would bet it would be a lot lighter.
theres no doubt the 370 Z is going to be an all around awesome performance car stock, but good luck carrying more than one person anywhere with you. the two cars are directed at two different markets. its the same as comparing a solstice GXP with a camaro SS...why cant the camaro weigh as much as the solstice?!
and speaking of prochargers on a Z, the 350's were blowing up engines left right and center with boost, so this new engine that is probably more maxed out than the 350 was will probably have a very limited lifespan with a supercharger as well.
mod for mod, the camaro's muscle will respond very well with minor mods where the 370 Z will struggle to get too much more power out of it.
the camaro is also heavy because its build from some preexisting structure. if it makes it past this 5th generation im sure something a little more camaro dedicated will help bring the weight down...but really, with all the new government safety and emmissions regulations its tough making a mid sized car be light weight
theres no doubt the 370 Z is going to be an all around awesome performance car stock, but good luck carrying more than one person anywhere with you. the two cars are directed at two different markets. its the same as comparing a solstice GXP with a camaro SS...why cant the camaro weigh as much as the solstice?!
and speaking of prochargers on a Z, the 350's were blowing up engines left right and center with boost, so this new engine that is probably more maxed out than the 350 was will probably have a very limited lifespan with a supercharger as well.
mod for mod, the camaro's muscle will respond very well with minor mods where the 370 Z will struggle to get too much more power out of it.
the camaro is also heavy because its build from some preexisting structure. if it makes it past this 5th generation im sure something a little more camaro dedicated will help bring the weight down...but really, with all the new government safety and emmissions regulations its tough making a mid sized car be light weight
why would you compare a CAMARO to a NISSAN, And compare 0-60??
I could put some 6.15 gear in my rearend and do 0-60 in like 2.7 seconds, but whats the point if the car want reach the finish line????
Go out and drive both before you make a decision...
Good luck...
I could put some 6.15 gear in my rearend and do 0-60 in like 2.7 seconds, but whats the point if the car want reach the finish line????
Go out and drive both before you make a decision...
Good luck...
Last edited by Greg Pippin; Apr 3, 2009 at 09:37 PM.
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that car looks like an egg with wheels. 
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I'm tired of posting weight comparrisons, so look up a BMW M3's weight or see how surprisingly high of weight the tiny Evo X is.
The 370z is also a two foot smaller car and has two less seats... *******.
Want to talk speed? A 370z with a 1/4 mile time @ 13.8 would get smacked around by a 4th gen
The 370z is also a two foot smaller car and has two less seats... *******.
Want to talk speed? A 370z with a 1/4 mile time @ 13.8 would get smacked around by a 4th gen
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FWIW, the motor in the 370 is the same motor in the GT-R...being that, many of the top tuning shops in japan all are saying that the new GT-R will not be the monster that the old skylines were. The motor is almost tapped out for power. Keep that in mind when talking about modifications to the vehicle.
The VQ35/37 is a very potent motor, but the LS3 has had many more years of building, plus as seen in the ZR1 and the new CTS-V's, they can make lots of power, gobs if you will, and still hold up to the strain.
BTW, heavier cars make more comforable cars. Try reading reveiws on the 350Z, they all complained about ride harshness, which is fine when you're young and spry and on a smooth track. Take it out on some pot hole filled roads and it'll sing a different tune.
The VQ35/37 is a very potent motor, but the LS3 has had many more years of building, plus as seen in the ZR1 and the new CTS-V's, they can make lots of power, gobs if you will, and still hold up to the strain.
BTW, heavier cars make more comforable cars. Try reading reveiws on the 350Z, they all complained about ride harshness, which is fine when you're young and spry and on a smooth track. Take it out on some pot hole filled roads and it'll sing a different tune.
Right on! The 370Z is a fine automobile and some of the Mags seem to like to compare it to the Camaro. The only real disadvantage with the Camaro is the weight and that will be addressed by individual owners. So we have to put up with a cheesy interior...again, but the areas that really count; Power, Price, ease of modification all go to the Camaro SS.
Last edited by TT632; Apr 7, 2009 at 03:47 PM.
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Apples to apples here you should compare the Camaro with the Altima coupe. The Z's competitor is Chevrolet's 2 seat sports car. However if you want to compare apples to oranges Motor Trend did a comparison between a Prius and an H2 awhile back.
The only reason these two cars are compared is price, which is a retarded reason to compare cars. Get what you want, if it's out of your price range get the next best thing, in this case if the Vette's out of your price range get the Z. If your considering it you don't need the backseat anyway.
The only reason these two cars are compared is price, which is a retarded reason to compare cars. Get what you want, if it's out of your price range get the next best thing, in this case if the Vette's out of your price range get the Z. If your considering it you don't need the backseat anyway.
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Apples to apples here you should compare the Camaro with the Altima coupe. The Z's competitor is Chevrolet's 2 seat sports car. However if you want to compare apples to oranges Motor Trend did a comparison between a Prius and an H2 awhile back.
The only reason these two cars are compared is price, which is a retarded reason to compare cars. Get what you want, if it's out of your price range get the next best thing, in this case if the Vette's out of your price range get the Z. If your considering it you don't need the backseat anyway.
The only reason these two cars are compared is price, which is a retarded reason to compare cars. Get what you want, if it's out of your price range get the next best thing, in this case if the Vette's out of your price range get the Z. If your considering it you don't need the backseat anyway.
Apples to apples here you should compare the Camaro with the Altima coupe. The Z's competitor is Chevrolet's 2 seat sports car. However if you want to compare apples to oranges Motor Trend did a comparison between a Prius and an H2 awhile back.
The only reason these two cars are compared is price, which is a retarded reason to compare cars. Get what you want, if it's out of your price range get the next best thing, in this case if the Vette's out of your price range get the Z. If your considering it you don't need the backseat anyway.
The only reason these two cars are compared is price, which is a retarded reason to compare cars. Get what you want, if it's out of your price range get the next best thing, in this case if the Vette's out of your price range get the Z. If your considering it you don't need the backseat anyway.
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