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Old 05-26-2009, 10:32 PM
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From the beginning GM said they had to sell 100,000 Camaro's a year for it to be profitable. How long will they be selling them? I don't think they are going to hit 100k in sales. But they are going BK anyway, pretty much doesn't matter.
Old 05-26-2009, 10:46 PM
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I saw my first one this evening. Talked to the guy...he paid 36k....V6. He said that there are a few dealers that have em in the DFW Tx area and the ******** have done the market adjustment crap on em. Hopefully those dealers will be ones that are phased out.
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Originally Posted by ZeroFear
I havn't seen any 2010's driving around at all yet. I've seen tons of 2009 mustangs so far.I wondered why no one was purchasing these cars until I saw mid 30s for a V6. LOL @ that. An 02 Z28 fully loaded was like 25K. good luck GM!
I have seen more then plenty 2010s, and have maybe seen a couple 09 mustangs. I am sure the mid 30s V6 you saw was a fully loaded one...you can get a base SS low 30s easy...Also a a 02 Z28 FULLY LOADED was NOT 25k....more like 30k or so. That and you need to add in price inflation to today's cars compared to a car for sale 8 years ago.

People dont seem to understand, Dealers for ANY car brand not just GM do dealer markups...Ford dealers do it with mustangs as do dodge dealers do it with challengers. It's not hard to find a dealer selling at retail price you just need to look.
Old 05-26-2009, 11:20 PM
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We sold our first Black GT for 10k over sticker 2 weeks ago. There's always an initial 6 month markup before the initial demand has been met, and then the supply catches up with it.
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BRO WITH ALL DUE RESPECT YOU MUST BE STARVING!!!!!! 31K FOR A V6 ANYTHING WTF!!! LOL!!!
Originally Posted by Build #1
I sell them Bro, I sell them.............With out Mark Up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hear yourself........what other people say
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Chevy dealer near me has a 1SS Camaro yellow for 31k.

http://www.moritzchevrolet.com/New-I...oryId=27838992

I have seen it, it was there today with a bunch of people around it..

another for 35k
http://www.vandergriffchevrolet.com/...seHistory=true


See, not hard to find one for MSRP...
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Originally Posted by 98LS1Formula
I just bought a 2SS for $36,995, 0 mark up
I'm looking into ordering a 2SS for the wife. Did you get any other options, RS, 21" wheels?

I did some searching around and figured with the added options I would pay about 42ish. It would be nice to pay less though.
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Originally Posted by ZeroFear
I havn't seen any 2010's driving around at all yet. I've seen tons of 2009 mustangs so far.I wondered why no one was purchasing these cars until I saw mid 30s for a V6. LOL @ that. An 02 Z28 fully loaded was like 25K. good luck GM!
Fully loaded Z back in 02 was 28K. I should know, I bought one, but what is 3 grand right. Most SS were for well over 30 grand. One SS I looked at was 34K, fully loaded from GM with the 1400 dollar CME added and 300 dollar floor mats. Much better built car for roughly the same price. Only difference is that you could strip down the SS or Z for around 24K.

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It doesnt matter what people on autotrader or ebay are asking.... I sell the 2010 Camaro and without markup.... you can get a 2LT with RS package 30,900. Add ground effects and a $4400 21 in wheel package and yes you can push the V6 to the Mids and higher 30s. I have 2LT no RS for under 30K. Fact.
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Originally Posted by WS6HUMMER
I'm looking into ordering a 2SS for the wife. Did you get any other options, RS, 21" wheels?

I did some searching around and figured with the added options I would pay about 42ish. It would be nice to pay less though.
it has the dealer installed stripe pack, painted engine cover and a custom car cover with it so basically $1k in options, no RS or 21" wheels oh and its a A6 automatic
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Originally Posted by kennyxg
BRO WITH ALL DUE RESPECT YOU MUST BE STARVING!!!!!! 31K FOR A V6 ANYTHING WTF!!! LOL!!!
LOL, I am glad that people actually will pay that for a V6 car, Unlike you and me. I would opt for a 1SS for 31k. But some people like bells and whistles, and you say 304 hp, they hook up. Plenty of 200hp V6 Camaros were sold,
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more than likely i will buy a v6 but in a few yrs. from now. when i can just go get it cash. and swap in ls with th350
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There will always be dealers who are douches and looking for max profit.

The Chevy dealer here is selling for MSRP, but I would not buy from them based on their attitude with these cars. It seems a "hot new item" really brings out the a$$ in salespeople, despite the economy. I went in to look at a SS on the showroom. I asked the salesman if I could look inside and under the hood. I had told him I wasn't buying one on the spot (just looking)and he said..."sorry, it's locked" and walked away without ever looking back. He added as he was leaving that the Camaro has an engine cover and therefore I wouldn't know what I was looking at.....

Lost my future business. BTW, this was Holiday Chevrolet in Williamsburg, Va.
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Local dealer around here wants 32k for a base v6 with 18" wheels.
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Originally Posted by Schantin
There will always be dealers who are douches and looking for max profit.

The Chevy dealer here is selling for MSRP, but I would not buy from them based on their attitude with these cars. It seems a "hot new item" really brings out the a$$ in salespeople, despite the economy. I went in to look at a SS on the showroom. I asked the salesman if I could look inside and under the hood. I had told him I wasn't buying one on the spot (just looking)and he said..."sorry, it's locked" and walked away without ever looking back. He added as he was leaving that the Camaro has an engine cover and therefore I wouldn't know what I was looking at.....

Lost my future business. BTW, this was Holiday Chevrolet in Williamsburg, Va.
You see, that's **** poor attitude from that salesperson. With that kind of attitude, I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up having to find another job. It's good they sell them at or below MSRP, but that don't mean anything since that salesperson refuses to conduct business in a professional manner.
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Originally Posted by Schantin
I asked the salesman if I could look inside and under the hood. I had told him I wasn't buying one on the spot (just looking)and he said..."sorry, it's locked" and walked away without ever looking back. He added as he was leaving that the Camaro has an engine cover and therefore I wouldn't know what I was looking at.....
I would have flat out said to his doucebag face "Your shitty attitude is going to be posted on the Internet".
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Originally Posted by SlvrV6Camaro
Also a a 02 Z28 FULLY LOADED was NOT 25k....more like 30k or so.
You are smoking crack! Base price for a Z28 was 22k, fully optioned out barely hit the 25K mark. My SS at invoice was 26K and if you fully optioned an SS out you would see 31-32K. There was no combination of options that would add up to 8k or more to get a Z28 in to the 30K territory, other than the SS option.
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Originally Posted by BigBake
You are smoking crack! Base price for a Z28 was 22k, fully optioned out barely hit the 25K mark. My SS at invoice was 26K and if you fully optioned an SS out you would see 31-32K. There was no combination of options that would add up to 8k or more to get a Z28 in to the 30K territory, other than the SS option.
Even if you are right, you need to think of price inflation over the past 8 years....you are paying the same for the SS now as you were for one back then.
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Considering people are paying over 30k for a v6 camaro must mean guys like you and me arent and general public is. to GM building a car people want... Did you ever think it would happen?
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im not gonna pay for 30k for a basic v8 or decked out v6.
i bought a brand new 02 ht ss. built my cred. other than that i will get a 5th gen cash. no more notes for me.
i hope alot of the v6's sell. so i can find one for a good price 3-4 yrs. from now


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