solid axle conversion ?
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apparently you seem to think the Camaro or Viper IRS is...
No actually quite the contrary. If I were going to build a drag car, and I was not going to build a "chassis car". I would not use a body in white. I think most folks simply have no clue what is required to build a "body in white".
As for the weight, look at the Mustang, its a heavy pig of a car. So is the Challenger. The weight of the car is actually condusive to the use of a solid axle if you want to drag race the car.
I'm not saying its a requirement just pointing that out. If I wanted to build a Camaro drag car with a solid axle, I'd get a low option stripper, and then I'd remove everything I wans't going to use and sell the parts to re-coup some of the fund outlay. In that way I could keep what I needed, and could get rid of what I didn't.
Again, if you feel like its stupid to convert a car to a solid axle, that great. Its YOUR opinion. It doesn't make it any more correct than anyone else. Thats fine don't go build a Camaro with a solid axle. When you inevitable see people do it, you can roll your eyes and smugly tell yourself how stupid those people are, and assure yourself of how smart you really are.
I've had a lot of friends in Australia who have been drag racing the Holden platform for 10 years. Some keep the IRS, and some don't. The older Holden (just like this platform) is a big heavy pig that breaks IRS parts as soon as you apply any real power to it. That is why folks like Pedder's and BMR have a whole line of parts to TRY to keep the rear alive.
You got folks like Thomas and others who have created kits to put an 8.8 IRS centersection out of a Mustang into a GTO.
Good Point.
But, you're only further supporting my statement it's just plain stupid to buy a brand new IRS car to convert it to SRA.
A F-body, Fox body, or Cobra Jet are all obviously better choices for someone who wants a SRA.
I don't know why anyone would argue the obvious.
But, you're only further supporting my statement it's just plain stupid to buy a brand new IRS car to convert it to SRA.
A F-body, Fox body, or Cobra Jet are all obviously better choices for someone who wants a SRA.
I don't know why anyone would argue the obvious.
As for the weight, look at the Mustang, its a heavy pig of a car. So is the Challenger. The weight of the car is actually condusive to the use of a solid axle if you want to drag race the car.
I'm not saying its a requirement just pointing that out. If I wanted to build a Camaro drag car with a solid axle, I'd get a low option stripper, and then I'd remove everything I wans't going to use and sell the parts to re-coup some of the fund outlay. In that way I could keep what I needed, and could get rid of what I didn't.
Again, if you feel like its stupid to convert a car to a solid axle, that great. Its YOUR opinion. It doesn't make it any more correct than anyone else. Thats fine don't go build a Camaro with a solid axle. When you inevitable see people do it, you can roll your eyes and smugly tell yourself how stupid those people are, and assure yourself of how smart you really are.
I've had a lot of friends in Australia who have been drag racing the Holden platform for 10 years. Some keep the IRS, and some don't. The older Holden (just like this platform) is a big heavy pig that breaks IRS parts as soon as you apply any real power to it. That is why folks like Pedder's and BMR have a whole line of parts to TRY to keep the rear alive.
You got folks like Thomas and others who have created kits to put an 8.8 IRS centersection out of a Mustang into a GTO.
We are looking at 2 options. First would be to fit our 9" IRS conversion for the CTS-V into the new Camaro. The other option we are looking at is to develop the 12 bolt solid axle and go with a "normal" size brake assembly so we can get a 15" wheel combo on it. Both options will also allow better choices of gearing.
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apparently you seem to think the Camaro or Viper IRS is...
you can roll your eyes and smugly tell yourself how stupid those people are, and assure yourself of how smart you really are.
Ironic. You're being a smart *** about my respect for the Viper rear that has run 7's with a manual trans and you STILL can't tell me there is a better IRS than the Viper's.
Save the lecturing for somone who doesn't live in a glass house.
The older Holden (just like this platform) is a big heavy pig that breaks IRS parts as soon as you apply any real power to it.
you can roll your eyes and smugly tell yourself how stupid those people are, and assure yourself of how smart you really are.
Ironic. You're being a smart *** about my respect for the Viper rear that has run 7's with a manual trans and you STILL can't tell me there is a better IRS than the Viper's.
Save the lecturing for somone who doesn't live in a glass house.
The older Holden (just like this platform) is a big heavy pig that breaks IRS parts as soon as you apply any real power to it.
You probably heard that from some loser who wants to make himself feel better about buying his solid axel (piece of ****) Mustang.
It's 2009. Solid rear axels have NO place on new cars....or in the century.
Besides, if you are going to build a drag car, there is NO reason to buy new.
Especially if you are going to upgrade everything.
It's 2009. Solid rear axels have NO place on new cars....or in the century.
Besides, if you are going to build a drag car, there is NO reason to buy new.
Especially if you are going to upgrade everything.
99% of drag cars are pieces of
Some people like to be different and race something new...Like me 
As for me i would rather beef the irs up a little than convert to a solid axle..It can take a lot of power and hook better if built correctly....Just my 2
It would be nice if something useful was contributed to this thread I notice alot of NEW camaro threads are 100's of post deep with useless crap.
I found a company making front subframes that are about half the weight of the OE ones. I am curious why no one has made a rear replacement one to lighten the weight of the car and or make one so you could bolt in a solid axle rear.
I found a company making front subframes that are about half the weight of the OE ones. I am curious why no one has made a rear replacement one to lighten the weight of the car and or make one so you could bolt in a solid axle rear.
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It would be nice if something useful was contributed to this thread I notice alot of NEW camaro threads are 100's of post deep with useless crap.
I found a company making front subframes that are about half the weight of the OE ones. I am curious why no one has made a rear replacement one to lighten the weight of the car and or make one so you could bolt in a solid axle rear.
I found a company making front subframes that are about half the weight of the OE ones. I am curious why no one has made a rear replacement one to lighten the weight of the car and or make one so you could bolt in a solid axle rear.
that bolts in but...nobody has done one????
BMR had a prototype at PRI, they have some pics on camaro5. I like it they are using a torque arm and some kind of bolt in cradle. Which is what I was thinking of doing. Even better hopefully they bring it out.
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Not a straight axle, but both G Force and Hendrixs can set up a 9" IRS that will live. May not be the ULTIMATE IRS in the world, but it would take the power. Check out the fifth gen Camaro National Speed built in the FI section for pics.
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the entire rear suspension on the new camaro weighs over 500 lbs. i can garantee you can get an entire solid axle conversion in around 300lbs total. not to mention going to smaller brakes and wheels. 5th gen guys are running v6 brakes and 16" drag wheels and losing close to 200 lbs off of the cars,so small wheels/ brakes, plus solid axle conversion = around 500 lb loss, so with a full interior the car would weigh 3300 lbs give or take.
