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Old Aug 7, 2006 | 05:57 AM
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14217560/from/ET/

I thought you all may find this interesting if you haven't already seen it. One of my friends sent it to me via e-mail.
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Old Aug 7, 2006 | 06:03 AM
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Yep I just saw it on CNN this morning! They were showing a video clip of an LS1 z28. This is a day of days...
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Old Aug 7, 2006 | 08:33 AM
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Official? Detriot Free Press says Camaro a go for 2008

Source: http://freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/arti...D=2006608060568

FREE PRESS EXCLUSIVE: Camaro to roar back by 2008

GM to announce Chevy going from concept to streets
August 6, 2006

BY TOM WALSH and MARK PHELAN
FREE PRESS BUSINESS WRITERS

It's really happening: The Chevy Camaro is coming back as a production car, the Free Press has learned.

General Motors Corp. Chairman Rick Wagoner is expected to announce the resurrection of the legendary muscle car in a speech Thursday to an automotive conference in Traverse City.

The auto industry has been buzzing with speculation about GM's plans for the Camaro ever since the carmaker wowed the crowds at the 2006 North American International Auto Show in January with a stunning 400-horsepower concept. At a time when truck and SUV sales are softening and car sales are regaining momentum, a sexy new entry could give GM's entire passenger-car line a boost.

The production version could be built as early as 2008 and will offer three engines, a V-6 and two V-8s, according to people familiar with the plans.

GM spokesman Steve Harris would not comment Friday on plans for the Camaro, but other sources told the Free Press that GM's top management and board of directors have green-lighted the car.

The Camaro was introduced in 1966 as the answer to the Ford Mustang, and it prowled America's streets and drag strips until production ended in 2002.

Like the concept, the production Camaro will be based on GM's new Zeta global architecture for rear-wheel-drive cars, expected to form the basis for several big, powerful sedans and coupes to be introduced over the next few years.

It was unclear last week where GM intends to build the Camaro. Speculation in the automotive press has centered on assembly plants in Oshawa, Ontario, and Wilmington, Del.

Other unanswered questions are sure to keep the buzz going even after Wagoner's announcement:

How many people will buy a Camaro in the age of $3.15-per-gallon gasoline?
What will it cost?

And what about bringing back the Pontiac Firebird/TransAm?

Contact TOM WALSH at 313-223-4430 or twalsh@freepress.com.
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Old Aug 7, 2006 | 09:07 AM
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Shaaaweeeeeeet! Three V8s eh? LS2 and then what?
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Old Aug 7, 2006 | 09:43 AM
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damn, looks like im going to get another car payment again. i hope they dont ham it up. who cares, ill take one none the less.
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Old Aug 7, 2006 | 10:16 AM
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Shaaaweeeeeeet! Three V8s eh? LS2 and then what?
The article said a v6 and two v8's. I'm guessing LS4 or LS7 maybe, unless they develop a new engine by '08.

How many people will buy a Camaro in the age of $3.15-per-gallon gasoline?
What will it cost?

And what about bringing back the Pontiac Firebird/TransAm?
That's what I want to know.
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Old Aug 7, 2006 | 10:19 AM
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Here's another article that basically says the same as the other article, but I figured I'd post it anyways...

Chevy Camaro a go, report says

Shortly after the Chevrolet Camaro concept hit the Detroit show floor to rave reviews, there was little doubt GM would eventually build the car. According to a newspaper report, the official announcement is now finally only days away.

The Detroit Free Press has reported that GM CEO Rick Wagoner will announce later this week at a conference in Traverse City, MI, that the Camaro concept will be built.

The Camaro concept is built the company’s Zeta rear-drive platform, which goes into production this summer in Australia.

This platform, with independent suspension all around (technically, the Camaro’s parts came from a Cadillac CTS) and robust parts for large and high-performance cars, was shelved for a while to save costs as GM struggled to bring its bottom line under control, but it is ready to go now.

With hardware in hand, the next phase of making a real-world Camaro happen has to do with finalizing a production design, developing a specification list that will generate the requisite sales numbers, setting up to stamp out body parts from sheetmetal. Vice chairman Bob Lutz says the magic number is 100,000 units, and others say that means a range of affordable pony cars.

The report goes on to say that the car will be built as early as 2008 and that a V6 will join two V8s as the powertrain offerings.
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Old Aug 7, 2006 | 12:06 PM
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[QUOTE=00 SLVR Z]The article said a v6 and two v8's. I'm guessing LS4 or LS7 maybe, unless they develop a new engine by '08.
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Gotcha. Thats what I meant to type, 2 V8's not 3. LS7 in the camaro would be a little insane
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Old Aug 7, 2006 | 12:18 PM
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I started my first year of law school today. If they make an LS7 camaro I will buy it as soon as I grad!!!

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Old Aug 7, 2006 | 12:23 PM
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cant wait till i can walk into the dealer and buy one.
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Old Aug 7, 2006 | 12:58 PM
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LS7 in the camaro would be a little insane
Not really that insane when you really think about it. My guess is they will offer it as an limited option if the LS7 has stopped production in the Corvette (based on current rumors and speculation). So maybe the second or third model year of the Camaro it could be offered. Assuming the new Camaro weighs in at 3600-lbs or more, it would pose no threat to the Corvette in flat out performance and certainly be down rated by a couple of hp to keep the Vette people happy. Besides thay need a Camaro with same hp rating as the GT500 to keep up in the all important horsepower wars.
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Old Aug 7, 2006 | 01:17 PM
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This news hasn't been confirmed or denied by GM, however with the amount of coverage it's getting and GM isn't saying stop... I'd say it's a safe bet!

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Old Aug 7, 2006 | 08:11 PM
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The Detroit Free Press article...

http://freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/artic...=2006608060568

Basically all the other articles and news features are based on this article.
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Old Aug 7, 2006 | 09:32 PM
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100,000 units? Isn't that twice as many as the 4th gens?

Also, I hope we can get a solid axle as well.

I hope they don't come with an LS7 as I won't be able to afford it and thus I'll be jealous.
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Old Aug 8, 2006 | 02:24 PM
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I would guess a Z28 with an ls2 around 400hp and an ls7 SS detuned to around 450hp.
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Old Aug 8, 2006 | 04:25 PM
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I'm assuming independent rear suspension, because that's what the new chassis is being engineered for.
And I'm thinking Z28 gets a "Z06-esque" treatment as the top power model.
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Old Aug 8, 2006 | 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by 383ss
I would guess a Z28 with an ls2 around 400hp and an ls7 SS detuned to around 450hp.
The LS2 will be getting out of age by 2008 Im sure GM will put something "new" into the camaro I dunno maybe the LS3? LS8? LS9?
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Old Aug 8, 2006 | 09:17 PM
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My guess at this point would be a V6 just south of 300hp, a V8 (5.3l maybe) around 360-380hp, and the top V8 (6.0l likely, maybe SC'ed) putting out 420-450hp. That would make the most sense I think since GM claims this thing is going to be 3500lbs. The weight is what i'm most interested in because we can pretty much stake our lives on there being at least on engine available with 400hp or better in the car. Even if it is 400hp, if the car only weighs 3500lbs, that's wicked fast vs. the competition's pigs.

If GM really aims for the GT500, I really doubt it'll be with a limited production, hand built 427. Maybe a version of the 6.2l, but i'd say a supercharged LS2 would be more likely in that instance.
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Its time to put the mustang back in its place
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Old Aug 9, 2006 | 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by SlvrV6Camaro
The LS2 will be getting out of age by 2008 Im sure GM will put something "new" into the camaro I dunno maybe the LS3? LS8? LS9?
out of age? it just came out in 2005. the ls1 was around from 97-2004. I would think the ls2 would be around till 2010 at least, but I could be wrong. it seems like GM is going through motor 'gens' faster and faster.

I'm going to throw up if they put a blower on the camaro. it has never had one and it never should. leave the blowers for the mustangs.
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