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Old 11-09-2006, 09:05 PM
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If they are going to go with IRS then I think they would need more weight in the rear. Maybe they'll use a setup similar to the vette?
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I haven't heard anything that would indicate that, so I would say no at this point.
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That would be awesome, but costly, and theres a 99.9% chance it wont happen. Its based on the new Monaro/commedore platform, and that has no transaxle, so I wouldnt expect the Camaro to have one.
I do hope its tuned on the nurburgring though (GM are you reading this?), if they want this thing to compete, its going to have to handle good.
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The Corvette doesn't use a transaxle. The transmission and diff are seperate.
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Originally Posted by 2002_Z28_Six_Speed
The Corvette doesn't use a transaxle. The transmission and diff are seperate.
vette most definetly has a transaxle

from gm:
"Because the transmission is located in the rear of the car and is connected to the engine by means of a transaxle and torque tube, Corvette achieves a near 50/50 weight distribution for better overall performance."
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Originally Posted by JD_AMG
"Because the transmission is located in the rear of the car and is connected to the engine by means of a transaxle and torque tube, Corvette achieves a near 50/50 weight distribution for better overall performance."

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I hope the Camaro will be a well balanced car. It has got to be quite a challenge for GM to hit a cost point and make them cheap enough for the that huge V6 audience. I guess I'll have to deal with the compromises they make.

The Vettes are the only IRS sports car that I've seen from GM that really got it right with the balancing act. And we all know how cheap those Vettes come. The CTS-Vs have had issues with rears and we really can't compare with the four doors and all. I see IRS and I think road racing potential. I know my lowly fbod is far from balanced. That *** is always trying to hang out.
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Originally Posted by z28nbr1fan
The Vettes are the only IRS sports car that I've seen from GM that really got it right with the balancing act.
Actually from what Ive read the Solstice/Sky are very well balanced. The GTO (although not really a sportscar) is also very balanced.
And we all know how cheap those Vettes come.
Is this sarcasm?
Aside from the interior tid bits, the Vettes are pretty well built, and solid cars.
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JD,

The Solstice is in another league, sport compacts. The curb weight will be very different. And yes, you sensed the sarcasm. The Vette isn't cheap or inexpensive IMO.

BTW, I would love to see the Camaro with hydroformed frame rails like on the Vette and Solstice.
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Originally Posted by z28nbr1fan
JD,

The Solstice is in another league, sport compacts.
It is a GM sports car wit IRS though
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As long as this handles better than the next gen Supra, its ok. Toyota is downgrading the Supra from double wishbone to multilink
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Transaxle and hydroformed rails would be great!!! However, tuning it at the Ring is not just a wish...it is something that needs to be done!!! Seriously, that would give the camaro serious cred with more than muscle car nuts!!!

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Originally Posted by JD_AMG
vette most definetly has a transaxle

from gm:
"Because the transmission is located in the rear of the car and is connected to the engine by means of a transaxle and torque tube, Corvette achieves a near 50/50 weight distribution for better overall performance."

I have seen the C5 Corvette drivetrain a 100000000.... times since it came out.

A transaxle refers to the tranny and dif in the SAME intergal/structural unit and sharing the same oiling system. You can not service the diff in a transaxle without tearing every last piece out of the casing. This is an example of people generalizing a term. GM needs to watch the terms they use in a press release. It is like calling pencil graphite "lead." Incorrect but people do it.

With Corvette, the tranny and diff are completely seperate. You can seperate and rebuild them seperately. You can order a Getrag DIFF at the dealer....

WHAT IS THAT DIFF BLOCKOFF PLATE BETWEEN THE TRANNY AND DIFF? They are most certainly seperate and independent of each other NOT like in a FWD car.
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I would also like to note that GM refers to a transmission and a transaxle is the same sentence. That surely does not makes sense.
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Originally Posted by 2002_Z28_Six_Speed
I have seen the C5 Corvette drivetrain a 100000000.... times since it came out.

A transaxle refers to the tranny and dif in the SAME intergal/structural unit and sharing the same oiling system. You can not service the diff in a transaxle without tearing every last piece out of the casing. This is an example of people generalizing a term. GM needs to watch the terms they use in a press release. It is like calling pencil graphite "lead." Incorrect but people do it.

With Corvette, the tranny and diff are completely seperate. You can seperate and rebuild them seperately. You can order a Getrag DIFF at the dealer....

WHAT IS THAT DIFF BLOCKOFF PLATE BETWEEN THE TRANNY AND DIFF? They are most certainly seperate and independent of each other NOT like in a FWD car.
It may not be the "conventional" transaxle, but its still a transaxle.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/transaxle
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The link you just posted defeated what you said. They both refer to a singular, modular unit in which both componets are housed together. Besides, you can't refer to it as a transmission and a transaxle. The statement counters the other.

It is an inaccurate tendancy to call it that.
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Yeah I think in this case it technically is, and technically isnt a transaxle....call it what you will, but I'm gonna go with "transaxle" because it's just easier lol...
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10-4.

Talk about a world full of combinations/hybrids.
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Even if they didn't go with the "Trans-Axle" it would be nice if they would put a DECENT rear end in the new camaro. It's pretty damn rediculous the weak *** rear end they used to put in 'em.



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