Top of the line Camaro
Originally Posted by Checkmate
Go back to post one, I said top of line camaro and loaded.
If you can buy a v8 camaro for 27,750 I would be suprised.
If you can buy a v8 camaro for 27,750 I would be suprised.
I wouldn't pay over $37k for any Camaro...unless it was a 1st or early 2nd gen in really good condition. Not all of us have that kind of money to throw around. The only Camaro that should cost over $40k is some type of limited production model. They have to keep us average joes in mind when setting the price for these cars...if not they wont sell many, espeically when you can go by a vette for mid to high $40's
Originally Posted by 217zenki
25k-35k depending on options..40k is just ******* stupid..
I think you should be able to get a basic Z28(power everything, keyless entry, stereo with cd/mp3 hookup, automatic, posi, 17" wheels, and a non-cheesy interior) for about 26-27k.
Don't force options down our throats when we upgrade to the V8 model like leather, 18" wheels with 315 section tires, fancy monsoon radios, etc. that will drive up the costs.
Checkmate, you said you paid $30-$32K for your optioned SLP SS, but you wouldn't expect to pay ~$8,000 more in 2007 for the "top of the line, fully loaded" the next gen of Camaro?!
And, no, I didn't say $40 K was a good price for a plain-jane LS3 "Z28." I said $35K was. Speaking in equivalents and makeing the rather safe guess that the V8 will be the LS3.
In answer to your question, I replied that $40K wasnt a bad MSRP "for the top of the 2010 Camaro SS, loaded."
And, no, I didn't say $40 K was a good price for a plain-jane LS3 "Z28." I said $35K was. Speaking in equivalents and makeing the rather safe guess that the V8 will be the LS3.
In answer to your question, I replied that $40K wasnt a bad MSRP "for the top of the 2010 Camaro SS, loaded."
I would pay $40k for a top of the line Camaro but for that price it better have at least 50 hp over the base ls3, navigation, heads up display and all the cool little features like that.
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Verdad Gallardo I could see the dealers farking things up for us, if all they order are loaded cars with hud, leather, chrome wheels, navi, etc. and put a 5k markup on it. Then you have your 40k+ Camaro
If the price is any higher than the 2002 cars, then the car might tank after a few years. Look at the GTO. You would think that the ls3 would put it over the top as a no brainer but the reality is, the car will be too expensive. It will price itself out of the target market.
For the person that wants to argue that $8000 isn't asking too much after 8 years, you need to look at other car lines. Their prices haven't increased $1000 a year.
Though a lot of people say that they want the new camaro, the reality is they probably won't buy one. They won't be able to afford the price unless it is used.
GM had trouble selling the cars before so why would that change?
Of coarse I hope I'm wrong. I'd like a conv. but with four kids, that won't fly so I guess I'm one of those people I was talking about.
For the person that wants to argue that $8000 isn't asking too much after 8 years, you need to look at other car lines. Their prices haven't increased $1000 a year.
Though a lot of people say that they want the new camaro, the reality is they probably won't buy one. They won't be able to afford the price unless it is used.
GM had trouble selling the cars before so why would that change?
Of coarse I hope I'm wrong. I'd like a conv. but with four kids, that won't fly so I guess I'm one of those people I was talking about.
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I had to wait 4 years to buy my 2002 SS fully loaded 35th!! I couldn't afford to order it new! It was worth the wait, plus it had 10k of after market upgrades. Bonus! It's sad to say there will allways be people that'll be able to afford to order them new, no matter what the cost! This is just reality. I myself hope they keep the price down for the masses of camaro fanatics.If they don't and they cease production after a couple of years, we can only guess what those low production year camaros will be worth! If there's a will then there's a way. It just not always legal LOL!!
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Originally Posted by T/A-Speedfreak
If the price is any higher than the 2002 cars, then the car might tank after a few years. Look at the GTO. You would think that the ls3 would put it over the top as a no brainer but the reality is, the car will be too expensive. It will price itself out of the target market.
For the person that wants to argue that $8000 isn't asking too much after 8 years, you need to look at other car lines. Their prices haven't increased $1000 a year.
Though a lot of people say that they want the new camaro, the reality is they probably won't buy one. They won't be able to afford the price unless it is used.
GM had trouble selling the cars before so why would that change?
Of coarse I hope I'm wrong. I'd like a conv. but with four kids, that won't fly so I guess I'm one of those people I was talking about.
For the person that wants to argue that $8000 isn't asking too much after 8 years, you need to look at other car lines. Their prices haven't increased $1000 a year.
Though a lot of people say that they want the new camaro, the reality is they probably won't buy one. They won't be able to afford the price unless it is used.
GM had trouble selling the cars before so why would that change?
Of coarse I hope I'm wrong. I'd like a conv. but with four kids, that won't fly so I guess I'm one of those people I was talking about.
everyone is missing a few points.
1) the GTO didnt have XM or navi available
2) when comparing the new camaro to the old one, saying that 8k is a lot more, keep in mind that the 4th gen designed back in 92 or so and the interior was very old school. the new ones will be MODERN.
3) This post is talking about a top of the line camaro, meaning EVERY option available. ill bet that a base v8 model will be available for at least $10k less.
heres my guess on pricing:
v6 camaro: $20k-$26k
v8 z28 camaro: $25k-$32k
v8 SS camaro: $30k-$36k
V8 xx camaro: $38k-$40k
xx = some special edition beyond SS like the gmmg cars.
the mustang price ranges from $19k-$41k, so this seems pretty close.
1) the GTO didnt have XM or navi available
2) when comparing the new camaro to the old one, saying that 8k is a lot more, keep in mind that the 4th gen designed back in 92 or so and the interior was very old school. the new ones will be MODERN.
3) This post is talking about a top of the line camaro, meaning EVERY option available. ill bet that a base v8 model will be available for at least $10k less.
heres my guess on pricing:
v6 camaro: $20k-$26k
v8 z28 camaro: $25k-$32k
v8 SS camaro: $30k-$36k
V8 xx camaro: $38k-$40k
xx = some special edition beyond SS like the gmmg cars.
the mustang price ranges from $19k-$41k, so this seems pretty close.
Last edited by fast01z28; Aug 3, 2007 at 12:38 PM.
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Originally Posted by CamaroCain
That would be outrageous IMO. I'm not paying over $30K msrp for a V8 model, especially a base one.
The LOWEST priced car from Chevy (2008) with anything more than 6 cylinders is the Impala SS (W-body). Base price of just a tick under $29000. Let's say delivery runs $350 or so, so mid $29's for that. Does anyone really believe that GM is going to build and price them for less than a platform that was paid for 15+ years ago?
Minimum price I can even imagine would be at least what Dodge wants for a base Charger with the V8 ($31,315), plus delivery. If you could even find one at a dealer without options (or even a dealer who would want to waste their allocation on ordering one special for you). Of course, I agree that they will be priced out of their target audience reach and you may be able to pick up an automatic (forget about manual, they will sell) for under 30g's after they sit on the lot for 15 months. Might have some historical value as I suspect they will run for 3 years and then go away, never to return.
Not sure who GM pays for market research, but they should ask for a refund.
meh, with the current state of Japanese industry ruling the game, I would imagine that a "return to american muscle" would need to also entail getting them into the average joe's hands (via their wallet and wives). I mean, weren't the originals put out there as cars built on solid foundations? then the tuners and "mod'ers" took over to build the cars into the awesome machines that we love?
I could be wrong...
I could be wrong...
Originally Posted by OctaneZ28
A fully loaded every option convertible was $42,000 in 2002.
If you think the next gens in 2009 aren't going to be more expensive (let alone less) than a car that first came out in 1993 and got a very, very minor re-design in 1998, then you're <i>dreaming.</i> Everyone making claims about "outrageous" pricing: A) Aren't getting a new Camaro. B) Aren't being at all realistic. $40,000 for a fully-optioned, top of the line Camaro would be a great price, especially if there is more than one V8-powered option, like a bigger-inch or FI engine.
This car is going to cost more, and it should. I'm just hoping I can get my hands on a first or second-year stripper LS3.
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Let me ask this then. If GM said that they were going to maket the Camaro around the Mustang then what u guys are saying is they are only talkin about the V6. If the V8 Camaro is going to be in the price range of a Mustang GT. Then were in the hell are u guys getting $40,000 worth of options from. I just think the base model V8 will be around the GT with a loaded one as high as $35. But we will just have to see. If the Camaro is really worth $40 and I can afford it then ill pay it. If not hello Challenger.
Sales were horriblein 2002, pricing being one of the reasons. Sales declined every year during those final couple of years and a study showed that the majority of the people that were buying V8's were women.
Trans ams- which were priced higher than Z's, were $32000. Again, sales were flat.
Fully loaded mustang GTs were available for $23,000. Its not apples to apples but you get the point. Mustangs didn't go away.
$42000 for a fully loaded conv. SS explains why they sat on the lots so long. Reminds me of the GTO's?
What ever they are priced, they will sell for a few years at least and I'll be happy to see it.
Trans ams- which were priced higher than Z's, were $32000. Again, sales were flat.
Fully loaded mustang GTs were available for $23,000. Its not apples to apples but you get the point. Mustangs didn't go away.
$42000 for a fully loaded conv. SS explains why they sat on the lots so long. Reminds me of the GTO's?
What ever they are priced, they will sell for a few years at least and I'll be happy to see it.