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Old Aug 2, 2007 | 09:47 AM
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How would you feel about a $40,000 price tag for the top of the 2010 Camaro SS, loaded.
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Old Aug 2, 2007 | 10:52 AM
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I would feel dam good about it as long as it atleast neck and neck with the GT500. I think $40 grand is a Shelby killer.
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Old Aug 2, 2007 | 11:09 AM
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Dream on if they make a big-inch supercharged version.

Otherwise, for an LS3 and fully loaded, that wouldn't be a bad price at all. It's less than a new C6.

i just want them to offer a stripper with the fastest engine and lowest gears! Get it down to almost the fourth gen price range!
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Old Aug 2, 2007 | 11:34 AM
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YEAH I DEF WOULD lol
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Old Aug 2, 2007 | 11:40 AM
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Not that a poor College kid like me could afford it, but I'm tired of all the hype with the Shelby GT500, even though it has a crappy rear live axle. I think its a fair price.

And because I hate them, it would also eat up a percentage of Porche's Boxter and Cayman sales, another smile on my face
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Old Aug 2, 2007 | 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Sharpe
Otherwise, for an LS3 and fully loaded, that wouldn't be a bad price at all. It's less than a new C6.

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40,000 for what you stated and this car will be a complete failure.
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Old Aug 2, 2007 | 11:43 AM
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Hell No I will not pay that ******* much money for a camaro. That is ridiculous. This is the poor man's sports car. When did the poor man get so friggin much money. GM is out of its head if it attempts to sell them for so much. That is ridiculous!!!

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P.S. Paying that much for a Stang is just as ridiculous. These are cheap cars for normal ppl...they are not meant for such prices.
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Old Aug 2, 2007 | 11:54 AM
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40k is a reasonable price for a 500hp car......The base model car better be about 15k below that price though or gm will be in trouble cause they wont be selling a ton of them
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40,000 for what you stated and this car will be a complete failure.
Wait. You think they should charge less? You're kidding. Maybe you meant the car would failure for GM because it is too cheap at that price. In which case I might be swayed to agree with you.

Either way, it was nice hearing the informed opinion of a financial anyalyst specializing in the automotive industry.
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Old Aug 2, 2007 | 12:56 PM
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40,000 for what you stated and this car will be a complete failure.
I can see $40,000 for a very limited edition 427 or supercharged version kind of like the LT4 Z28 was back in the 4th gen.

$40,000 for a 400 hp LS3 is a disgrace. Why not pony up an extra $5000 and buy a Vette? The Camaro needs to be at least $10,000 cheaper than the Vette or it’s going to have an up hill battle.
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I think it will be ~$10K under for an LS3 Camaro. But, you add almost $5K for "fully loaded top of the line" and you have $40K. $35K+$5K=$40K.

IIRC, the SS option onto a Z28 was ~$3,500. Add another $500 for basic upgrades and you have $4,000 in 2002 4th gen money. This is 2007 and we're talking about a 5th gen. $5K for to make an equivalent LS3 Z28 into an equaivalent LS3 SS fully loaded isn't reaching at all.
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Old Aug 2, 2007 | 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Sharpe
Wait. You think they should charge less? You're kidding. Maybe you meant the car would failure for GM because it is too cheap at that price. In which case I might be swayed to agree with you.

Either way, it was nice hearing the informed opinion of a financial anyalyst specializing in the automotive industry.
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Originally Posted by Sharpe
Otherwise, for an LS3 and fully loaded, that wouldn't be a bad price at all. It's less than a new C6.

ls3=430


So you would pay 40k for 2009 Camaro z28 with the base v8 engine with approx 430hp?
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Old Aug 2, 2007 | 01:19 PM
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I would pay 40k for a new SS. You Get what you pay for people.
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Old Aug 2, 2007 | 01:21 PM
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isn't the new vette 505hp and $77k ?
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Hell the GTO which was 400hp was sold around $30. The LS1 Camaro SS was also around $30. $40 grand needs to be a 500hp camaro. I thinks its a good chance Dodge is going for the Shelby why not GM. But that's just me. $40 thousand for a camaro and I might have to jump ship.
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Old Aug 2, 2007 | 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Checkmate
So you would pay 40k for 2009 Camaro z28 with the base v8 engine with approx 430hp?
That would be outrageous IMO. I'm not paying over $30K msrp for a V8 model, especially a base one.
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Originally Posted by Heavy H.P.
Hell the GTO which was 400hp was sold around $30. The LS1 Camaro SS was also around $30. $40 grand needs to be a 500hp camaro. I thinks its a good chance Dodge is going for the Shelby why not GM. But that's just me. $40 thousand for a camaro and I might have to jump ship.
My loaded 2001 SS with SLP options was over 30k, 32 something MSRP sticks in my head.

2005 GTO was over 30 as well, I know a lot of people paid less than sticker but the point of this thread is sticker price.





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That would be outrageous IMO. I'm not paying over $30K msrp for a V8 model, especially a base one.
From what sharpe said, that is a good deal but I don't.
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Old Aug 2, 2007 | 02:15 PM
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You buy a cheap car you get a cheap car, i'll pay it! but it better be worth it!
Like the other guy said "you get what you pay for"
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Old Aug 2, 2007 | 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Checkmate
My loaded 2001 SS with SLP options was over 30k, 32 something MSRP sticks in my head.

2005 GTO was over 30 as well, I know a lot of people paid less than sticker but the point of this thread is sticker price.





From what sharpe said, that is a good deal but I don't.
You are not really comparing apples to apples here with the above information. Not all of us plan on purchasing the highest dollar optioned car with every option imaginable. IMO there is truely no comparing a Camaro to a GTO as far as price and options. From everything I have read the Camaro pricing will be competive with the Mustang, and I built myself a 2007 Mustang GT for $27,750 on their site to give me an idea of what I might be paying. The aftermarket is always a cheaper option, so if I want different wheels/tires, engine mods for more HP, or a different style hood then I can get them later when my checking account allows verses adding thousands more to my price tag on the car alone.
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Old Aug 2, 2007 | 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by CamaroCain
You are not really comparing apples to apples here with the above information. Not all of us plan on purchasing the highest dollar optioned car with every option imaginable. IMO there is truely no comparing a Camaro to a GTO as far as price and options. From everything I have read the Camaro pricing will be competive with the Mustang, and I built myself a 2007 Mustang GT for $27,750 on their site to give me an idea of what I might be paying. The aftermarket is always a cheaper option, so if I want different wheels/tires, engine mods for more HP, or a different style hood then I can get them later when my checking account allows verses adding thousands more to my price tag on the car alone.
Go back to post one, I said top of line camaro and loaded.

If you can buy a v8 camaro for 27,750 I would be suprised.
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