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Old Aug 5, 2007 | 08:10 PM
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Saleen built the Bumblebee...an they said the 5th gen would get a 450hp LS3. I know this is old news but I wanna reemphasize it in this situation. Saleen is in good with GM and I am pretty sure they are a reliable source of info.
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i said it before and Ill say it again.

Old Aug 6, 2007 | 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by hc8719
Seriously, besides a 6.0 liter with only 361 HP. The 5.7 liter LS1 (Vette) had 350 HP, .3 liters more of displacement and only 11 more HP?
Because its tuned to run on 87 octane. Try that with a LS1 or LS2 and see how much power it makes.

There is lots of hidden power with just a tune.
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Originally Posted by Rob
Because its tuned to run on 87 octane. Try that with a LS1 or LS2 and see how much power it makes.
ok then... How much?
Old Aug 6, 2007 | 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by hc8719
Seriously, besides a 6.0 liter with only 361 HP. The 5.7 liter LS1 (Vette) had 350 HP, .3 liters more of displacement and only 11 more HP?
I thought the 6.0 was rated at 400hp
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i doubt they are going to put a ls2 in there. it costs way more money to have 3 or 4 engine options for the corvette and camaro (ls2,ls3,ls7, etc) remember how the corvette and camaro always shared engines? well it's going to be the same thing, i'm willing to bet the camaro will get a low hp ls3, higher hp ls3, and later down the line a special edition engine combo, along with the v6 engine options.
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The only thing anyone cares about is how much hp it has? It doesn't bother anyone where it's built? Doesn't bother anyone that it will have cousins, ie similar cars?

I'll bet it has more hp. than the previous model, not the most in Camaro history though. When was the last time anyone here contacted any political leader and asked why they are requiring Auto Makers to provide more mpg, cleaner running engines in future cars? GM hands are tied, face it!

Two leading plant locations Edmond Ok, Or Oshawa Canada. Does an American Muscle car need to be built in America?
Old Aug 6, 2007 | 12:03 PM
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Guys From What Scott said when i talked to him Yesterday on 8-05-2007 40th Ann F-body B-day party, he said the Camaro is going to be able to put other cars to shame in its class. This includes the Mustang GT and the Challenger even with an srt package. It will be really fast.
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Old Aug 6, 2007 | 12:07 PM
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Scott Settlemire shut down the Saleen speculation last I read. I doubt they know anything more than us unless GM is planning to let a Saleen version Camaro come out, HUGE thumbs down in my book. Saleen=Mustang and Mustang=Enemy
5 engines would be nice but I doubt it. Too many options would leave too many Camaros sitting on lots.
Due to Emissions and all I think we'll see the 2 V6's and a V8 at first then a Vette-like domination motor later (2010ish).

Who cares about the engine! The Camaro is back and the aftermarket will better anything they put in it.
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Originally Posted by Wallywall
Scott Settlemire shut down the Saleen speculation last I read. I doubt they know anything more than us unless GM is planning to let a Saleen version Camaro come out, HUGE thumbs down in my book. Saleen=Mustang and Mustang=Enemy
5 engines would be nice but I doubt it. Too many options would leave too many Camaros sitting on lots.
Due to Emissions and all I think we'll see the 2 V6's and a V8 at first then a Vette-like domination motor later (2010ish).

Who cares about the engine! The Camaro is back and the aftermarket will better anything they put in it.

There was talk of haveing the Mustang from the Movie out with the bumblebee at the show but he was against it.
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Originally Posted by Jakes Dad
The only thing anyone cares about is how much hp it has? It doesn't bother anyone where it's built? Doesn't bother anyone that it will have cousins, ie similar cars?

I'll bet it has more hp. than the previous model, not the most in Camaro history though. When was the last time anyone here contacted any political leader and asked why they are requiring Auto Makers to provide more mpg, cleaner running engines in future cars? GM hands are tied, face it!

Two leading plant locations Edmond Ok, Or Oshawa Canada. Does an American Muscle car need to be built in America?
It would be dam nice if the car was built in America. But its not and it wont be. Where its built doesnt have **** to do with how it runs and the sprit behind the car. We all know what kind of icon the Camaro is. Im a gear head. and when it comes to cars like this yes the main point is horse power. Hell id buy a 350Z if it had enough horse power to out run the Camaro. Thats all I care about.

Originally Posted by kozak
i doubt they are going to put a ls2 in there. it costs way more money to have 3 or 4 engine options for the corvette and camaro (ls2,ls3,ls7, etc) remember how the corvette and camaro always shared engines? well it's going to be the same thing, i'm willing to bet the camaro will get a low hp ls3, higher hp ls3, and later down the line a special edition engine combo, along with the v6 engine options
This what ive been saying for the longest. 97 Vette LS1 98 Camaro LS1
2004 Vette LS2 2005 GTO LS2
2008 Vette LS3 2009 Camaro LS3
I think thats how it will go.
Old Aug 6, 2007 | 02:25 PM
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If you mean the Camaro will be available in three different V8 engines, you're a dumb ***. GM isn't doing so well already. Why would they screw themselves by increasing costs?
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If this is true, then the Challenger is looking better and better. Personally, I can't see GM putting a Camaro out there with 362 horsepower as the top-of-the-line model. Especially when Ford makes a 500 hp Mustang and Dodge a 425 hp Challenger.
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All we can pray for is an LS7.
Old Aug 6, 2007 | 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by patricksd
If this is true, then the Challenger is looking better and better. Personally, I can't see GM putting a Camaro out there with 362 horsepower as the top-of-the-line model. Especially when Ford makes a 500 hp Mustang and Dodge a 425 hp Challenger.

Ok once again from Scotts own mouth. "What we have planned for the Camaro will put the Mustang, and Challenger to Shame. Im not saying what engine we are going to use but you will see both vehicles in the rearview mirror in there top of the line form."


This mean 500hp Mustang, 425hp Challenger will not be a problem.
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Originally Posted by Freakenhye
Ok once again from Scotts own mouth. "What we have planned for the Camaro will put the Mustang, and Challenger to Shame. Im not saying what engine we are going to use but you will see both vehicles in the rearview mirror in there top of the line form."


This mean 500hp Mustang, 425hp Challenger will not be a problem.
and that is ALL that matters sounds likely it will be the ls7 and then the$100000 super vette motor. all we can do is wait and see until then enjoy what you have now and stop crying about it. the camaro is coming back. we should all be happy.
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Originally Posted by Hark_Z
All we can pray for is an LS7.
Pray and Pray and Pray and Pray
I don't see it happening. I would be amazed if they kept that motor around in the back closet just for the Camaro. Let me say this again a 500hp 427 Camaro commin in at 3800lbs yeah 38 cause if it lighter than that u know its a good chance it will out run the C6. And that's a no no. If its a tad slower then the Vette then maybe its possible.
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Originally Posted by Heavy H.P.
Pray and Pray and Pray and Pray
I don't see it happening. I would be amazed if they kept that motor around in the back closet just for the Camaro. Let me say this again a 500hp 427 Camaro commin in at 3800lbs yeah 38 cause if it lighter than that u know its a good chance it will out run the C6. And that's a no no. If its a tad slower then the Vette then maybe its possible.

A C6 is not that fast.


from what was talked about they are not sure what the engine is going to be but the car is going to be lighter then the Mustang, and the Challenger.
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LS7 is tooo expensive to be put into a ~35k car. They are currently being hand built at a cost of 13k. I hope its LS3...they make awesome power with bolt ons as proved by LG Motorsports: http://www.autoblog.com/2007/07/23/d...-ls3-corvette/. The cost to produce an LS3 will be about half of the cost of the LS7 because the block will be featured in the GMT-900's, Corvette and possibly several Zeta cars.
This thread is funny imo: http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show...1748224&page=9 all the LS2 guys feel like they got robbed because Chevy didnt tell em the LS3 was coming.

So CHEVY Please put the LS3 into the 09' Camaro...



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