Looks like the high performance SS could be
Looks like the high performance SS could be MotorTrend Sept. 2007 Issue, page 156 says:
"We've been watching for this one a long time now, but it should be worth the wait. The Global RWD architecture that underpins Chevy's reborn muscle machine is solid stuff, as will be a variety of V-8 and V-6 powertrains. The coupe arrives in early 2009, the convertible as a 2010 model, and a high-horse SS is expected, too"
"We've been watching for this one a long time now, but it should be worth the wait. The Global RWD architecture that underpins Chevy's reborn muscle machine is solid stuff, as will be a variety of V-8 and V-6 powertrains. The coupe arrives in early 2009, the convertible as a 2010 model, and a high-horse SS is expected, too"
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That's more like it. I also would love to see how much the top dog would cost but I think that's going to have a lot to do with what's under the hood amoungst other things. But if they are lookin for more than that 430hp 6.2 then the only thing I could see is a Super chargerd 6.2. But how would they do that? The Camaro can't be faster than the base model Vette. I just think every one is going to have to wait to see what ol Bob has up his sleeve.
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It is definetely going to be a ls3 in the Z28 model IMO. That is way than enough to run rings around a rustang GT and a SRT8. If GM wants the Camaro to compete with the GT500, it is goign to have to put the ls7 in the SS
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Originally Posted by Buff
It is definetely going to be a ls3 in the Z28 model IMO. That is way than enough to run rings around a rustang GT and a SRT8. If GM wants the Camaro to compete with the GT500, it is goign to have to put the ls7 in the SS
10:1 it comes with a modified version of the L76 that can do DoD, in Iron and/or aluminum block form. Those make around 360 hp, which is more than enough to deal with the upcoming(?) 5.0L 3v Ford likely has in the works. Personally I'd be more concerned with the imports than Ford and Dodge...
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jesus christ how many times do we have to have a speculation thread? and i say again if the information comes from anywhere that isnt an official GM press realease it doesnt mean ****. bah humbug!
p.s. Im hung over and bitter this morning.
p.s. Im hung over and bitter this morning.
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jesus christ how many times do we have to have a speculation thread? and i say again if the information comes from anywhere that isnt an official GM press realease it doesnt mean ****. bah humbug!
p.s. Im hung over and bitter this morning.
p.s. Im hung over and bitter this morning.
Thanks for the heads up. I sell Chevrolets but I just asked my lot tech to go and buy me a copy of that Motor Trend so that I could stay informed. I know someday GM will allow us to order this car, but the day hasn't come yet. I wish there was an option to buy it less the engine. I would stuff the biggest GM crate engine in our Camaros and double the sticker price.
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I sell Chevrolets but I just asked my lot tech to go and buy me a copy of that Motor Trend so that I could stay informed.
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Originally Posted by Jakes Dad
Thanks for the heads up. I sell Chevrolets but I just asked my lot tech to go and buy me a copy of that Motor Trend so that I could stay informed. I know someday GM will allow us to order this car, but the day hasn't come yet. I wish there was an option to buy it less the engine. I would stuff the biggest GM crate engine in our Camaros and double the sticker price.
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Originally Posted by PowerShift408
I could see the LS7 in the SS... that'll make it a GT500 killer, but it won't be as fast as the blown LS3 vette.
i just hope the rumors about a blown gm engine in a production car isn't true. Well all know that the production ls7 in the c6 z06 is way down on power. As for an SS with a ls7, sure, but it will be the 500hp version, probably tuned down a bit, while the vette the rumored 600hp+ motor.
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That's more like it. I also would love to see how much the top dog would cost but I think that's going to have a lot to do with what's under the hood amoungst other things. But if they are lookin for more than that 430hp 6.2 then the only thing I could see is a Super chargerd 6.2. But how would they do that? The Camaro can't be faster than the base model Vette. I just think every one is going to have to wait to see what ol Bob has up his sleeve.
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Originally Posted by Buff
It is definitely going to be a ls3 in the Z28 model IMO. That is way than enough to run rings around a mustang GT and a SRT8. If GM wants the Camaro to compete with the GT500, it is going to have to put the ls7 in the SS
Check out the quarter mile times Car & Driver got with the Shelby GT 500 . ( 13.4 at 110 MPH )
well, power wise, the gt500 is capable, stock, to run in the mid 12's. Thats at 500hp and over or at 4klbs.
Now, the 98-02 camaros ran an est. 13.1 with 345 at 3500-3600lbs. With, let say a weight or 3700-3800lbs, and with a ls3 making 450hp, that would put close to even. Put there are too many variables. One thing that is a fact is that the gt500 might tons of bragging hp..... but that is it. Honestly, why even bother spending so much money of the motor if you cannot even get it to hook, with a straight rear mind you.
If anything, with the new platforms IRS rear suspension, GM needs to make the IRS a priority. The power is easy. We all know that!!!! But make it handle and hook car lengths ahead of the gt500 and even if it has less HP, it will win regardless; stock vs stock!
Still, i would hate it to be a FI motor in the camaro. Keep it in your dreams to make the vette a supercar, but not the pony. It only needs N/A RAW power to whoop up, like it has done in the past! GM has a new block that can rejuvenate, if they wish, the 454ci or 427ci in the camaro!! Now that is the way to do it!!
Now, the 98-02 camaros ran an est. 13.1 with 345 at 3500-3600lbs. With, let say a weight or 3700-3800lbs, and with a ls3 making 450hp, that would put close to even. Put there are too many variables. One thing that is a fact is that the gt500 might tons of bragging hp..... but that is it. Honestly, why even bother spending so much money of the motor if you cannot even get it to hook, with a straight rear mind you.
If anything, with the new platforms IRS rear suspension, GM needs to make the IRS a priority. The power is easy. We all know that!!!! But make it handle and hook car lengths ahead of the gt500 and even if it has less HP, it will win regardless; stock vs stock!
Still, i would hate it to be a FI motor in the camaro. Keep it in your dreams to make the vette a supercar, but not the pony. It only needs N/A RAW power to whoop up, like it has done in the past! GM has a new block that can rejuvenate, if they wish, the 454ci or 427ci in the camaro!! Now that is the way to do it!!
Originally Posted by obZidian
well, power wise, the gt500 is capable, stock, to run in the mid 12's. Thats at 500hp and over or at 4klbs.
Now, the 98-02 camaros ran an est. 13.1 with 345 at 3500-3600lbs. With, let say a weight or 3700-3800lbs, and with a ls3 making 450hp, that would put close to even. Put there are too many variables. One thing that is a fact is that the gt500 might tons of bragging hp..... but that is it. Honestly, why even bother spending so much money of the motor if you cannot even get it to hook, with a straight rear mind you.
If anything, with the new platforms IRS rear suspension, GM needs to make the IRS a priority. The power is easy. We all know that!!!! But make it handle and hook car lengths ahead of the gt500 and even if it has less HP, it will win regardless; stock vs stock!
Still, i would hate it to be a FI motor in the camaro. Keep it in your dreams to make the vette a supercar, but not the pony. It only needs N/A RAW power to whoop up, like it has done in the past! GM has a new block that can rejuvenate, if they wish, the 454ci or 427ci in the camaro!! Now that is the way to do it!!
Now, the 98-02 camaros ran an est. 13.1 with 345 at 3500-3600lbs. With, let say a weight or 3700-3800lbs, and with a ls3 making 450hp, that would put close to even. Put there are too many variables. One thing that is a fact is that the gt500 might tons of bragging hp..... but that is it. Honestly, why even bother spending so much money of the motor if you cannot even get it to hook, with a straight rear mind you.
If anything, with the new platforms IRS rear suspension, GM needs to make the IRS a priority. The power is easy. We all know that!!!! But make it handle and hook car lengths ahead of the gt500 and even if it has less HP, it will win regardless; stock vs stock!
Still, i would hate it to be a FI motor in the camaro. Keep it in your dreams to make the vette a supercar, but not the pony. It only needs N/A RAW power to whoop up, like it has done in the past! GM has a new block that can rejuvenate, if they wish, the 454ci or 427ci in the camaro!! Now that is the way to do it!!
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Originally Posted by Z ROADSTER
Check out the quarter mile times Car & Driver got with the Shelby GT 500 . ( 13.4 at 110 MPH )
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Originally Posted by Z ROADSTER
Check out the quarter mile times Car & Driver got with the Shelby GT 500 . ( 13.4 at 110 MPH )
LMAO, thats pathetic, and the slowest 1/4 time I've seen on a car pushing 500 HP
Wow, this is one of the dumbest threads I've ever read. Everyone knows the V6 model is gonna run low 12's, the LS3 is gonna run low 11's, and the supercharged LS3 is gonna run deep into the 9's...stock.
Oh, btw I got this information directly from Bob Lutz this morning when we woke up...
Oh, btw I got this information directly from Bob Lutz this morning when we woke up...
Originally Posted by obZidian
well, power wise, the gt500 is capable, stock, to run in the mid 12's. Thats at 500hp and over or at 4klbs.
Now, the 98-02 camaros ran an est. 13.1 with 345 at 3500-3600lbs. With, let say a weight or 3700-3800lbs, and with a ls3 making 450hp, that would put close to even. Put there are too many variables. One thing that is a fact is that the gt500 might tons of bragging hp..... but that is it. Honestly, why even bother spending so much money of the motor if you cannot even get it to hook, with a straight rear mind you.
Still, i would hate it to be a FI motor in the camaro. Keep it in your dreams to make the vette a supercar, but not the pony. It only needs N/A RAW power to whoop up, like it has done in the past! GM has a new block that can rejuvenate, if they wish, the 454ci or 427ci in the camaro!! Now that is the way to do it!!
Now, the 98-02 camaros ran an est. 13.1 with 345 at 3500-3600lbs. With, let say a weight or 3700-3800lbs, and with a ls3 making 450hp, that would put close to even. Put there are too many variables. One thing that is a fact is that the gt500 might tons of bragging hp..... but that is it. Honestly, why even bother spending so much money of the motor if you cannot even get it to hook, with a straight rear mind you.
Still, i would hate it to be a FI motor in the camaro. Keep it in your dreams to make the vette a supercar, but not the pony. It only needs N/A RAW power to whoop up, like it has done in the past! GM has a new block that can rejuvenate, if they wish, the 454ci or 427ci in the camaro!! Now that is the way to do it!!
I agree with you on the FI camaro though