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Old May 25, 2008 | 12:42 AM
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Actually it seems that the ss and the z28 will be switching roles in the upcoming generation. Kind of pisses me off I finally got an ss but eventually that is the base v8 that gm will put out. appereantly when later released the z28 will make more power than the ss.
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The Z28 goes back a long time as does the SS. They both have a place in f-body history, It really does not matter what one will have a bigger engine in the 5th gen. I am just glad that we are getting a new Camaro with a powerful motor, SS or Z28 It's all good in my book.
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Okay, original poster. I know you're upping your post count here, but there are COUNTLESS threads detailing this. Was it 100% required to drag this point up AGAIN? USE THE GODDAMND SEARCH FUNCTION!
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Originally Posted by beezer1519
Actually it seems that the ss and the z28 will be switching roles in the upcoming generation. Kind of pisses me off I finally got an ss but eventually that is the base v8 that gm will put out. appereantly when later released the z28 will make more power than the ss.

youre wrong!! I heard the theyre gonna reverse roles and the RS will be the fastest and the the Z28 followed by the SS as the slowest
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Originally Posted by Semper91-RS
Okay, original poster. I know you're upping your post count here, but there are COUNTLESS threads detailing this. Was it 100% required to drag this point up AGAIN? USE THE GODDAMND SEARCH FUNCTION!
No love here from you to the OP.
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Originally Posted by wannabess00
youre wrong!! I heard the theyre gonna reverse roles and the RS will be the fastest and the the Z28 followed by the SS as the slowest
Idiot! Everyone knows that LT=Godzerss
Old May 25, 2008 | 07:23 PM
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Forget what the top dog is called.
It is pathetic that it won't be available at launch.

I'm still waiting for a GM insider to come in a do some damage control on this.
Surprisingly there has been none.
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Originally Posted by beezer1519
Actually it seems that the ss and the z28 will be switching roles in the upcoming generation. Kind of pisses me off I finally got an ss but eventually that is the base v8 that gm will put out. appereantly when later released the z28 will make more power than the ss.
Now you know how the 60's Z28 owners felt when the SS became the top dog.
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In the late 60s which is the car is made to resemble the Z28 was the big option. Sure the SS had both the 350 and 396 as an option but the Z28 with the DZ302 dual four barrel and solid roller was quick and light enough to more than keep up with a stock SS396.
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really who gives a ****? (well apparently alot of people do, better question is; does it really matter) its a camaro and chevy is making it and it will haul ***, so i am happy.
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Originally Posted by wannabess00
youre wrong!! I heard the theyre gonna reverse roles and the RS will be the fastest and the the Z28 followed by the SS as the slowest
That's fucked up
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the original Z28 was made to resemble the race car so they could take it out racing. if they go the same route for this Gen camaro, the Z will probably be a car geared towards kicking major **** on the track, making it better in performance than the SS...but which would be better on the street?!
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This horse has been beat to death 100 times please give it a rest ... it makes no difference ... if you can't live with it buy some phuchin badges and change them after you make your purchase..
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I cant waite for the 2011 Berlinetta...
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The fastest of the new Camaro will be the "Type LT". And yes, it will have a vinyl top. People who remember their mid-'70s Camaros should find that amusing.

Not sure why anyone cares about this. I mean, it's not like the 4th gen SS was any faster than the 4th gen Z28. Sure, the SS package gave you an ever-so-slightly better flowing muffler and a hood that might help HP after 130mph, but the heavier 17X9 wheels offset those tiny power gains. The FASTEST stock (NOT counting SS/Firehawks with SLP options such as dual/dual or Blackwing) LS1 F-bodies were stripper Z28s with zero options. They all make the same power, so the nod for fastest goes to the lightest car.

And, like I've been saying for quite some time now, the "Z28" badge goes better with GM's current supercar line-up (ZR1, ZO6) than SS. SS is just the top option trim/engine level for regular, unlimited production Chevys ranging from Impala to Cobalt. SS is too watered down at this point to be the "supercar". Z28 is assoicated with one car and one car only: Camaro. You can't say that about SS, which is why it makes more sense to use Z28 for the highest level, limited production supercar.

Here is what GM needs to do:

- Base V6 car (300hp, 3.6L VVT), maybe offer a cosmetic package as an "RS" model.

- SS (405hp, 6.2L LS3), should be offered as everything from a stripper to a fully loaded car.

- Z28 (505-525hp, some version of the supercharged LSA engine), limited production supercar, to compete with GT500, etc.
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Originally Posted by RPM WS6

Here is what GM needs to do:

- Base V6 car (300hp, 3.6L VVT), maybe offer a cosmetic package as an "RS" model.

- SS (405hp, 6.2L LS3), should be offered as everything from a stripper to a fully loaded car.

- Z28 (505-525hp, some version of the supercharged LSA engine), limited production supercar, to compete with GT500, etc.
x2, I like that.
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Can we just lock all topics on here until something offical or pix and vidz come out that tells us something. I am tired of seeing 101 retard threads on here about what isnt, mightbe, wont be, will be and other BS about the Camaro. It will be out when it's out, we will know more info when it is OFFICALLY released period. Some of you make a retard seem really smart. Hey next time some of you see a rainbow look for the pot of gold too. Damn fucknozzles.

**** I am off my soap box. but for those that put out GOOD info and pix or vidz I thank you. but for those whom cry about something you nor I know about yet go sniff some more glue.
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RPM WS6....not a bad idea, but even sweeter would be a ZL1 option (super low production) with a pair of turbos hovering in the 600hp mark!
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Originally Posted by turbowhistle86
RPM WS6....not a bad idea, but even sweeter would be a ZL1 option (super low production) with a pair of turbos hovering in the 600hp mark!
ZL1 would be another great choice for the supercar badge. It's more special than Z28 for sure, but the rarity of the name might hurt brand recognition though, since few people (other than true Camaro fans) have ever heard of the ZL1.
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Originally Posted by RPM WS6
The fastest of the new Camaro will be the "Type LT". And yes, it will have a vinyl top. People who remember their mid-'70s Camaros should find that amusing.

Not sure why anyone cares about this. I mean, it's not like the 4th gen SS was any faster than the 4th gen Z28. Sure, the SS package gave you an ever-so-slightly better flowing muffler and a hood that might help HP after 130mph, but the heavier 17X9 wheels offset those tiny power gains. The FASTEST stock (NOT counting SS/Firehawks with SLP options such as dual/dual or Blackwing) LS1 F-bodies were stripper Z28s with zero options. They all make the same power, so the nod for fastest goes to the lightest car.

And, like I've been saying for quite some time now, the "Z28" badge goes better with GM's current supercar line-up (ZR1, ZO6) than SS. SS is just the top option trim/engine level for regular, unlimited production Chevys ranging from Impala to Cobalt. SS is too watered down at this point to be the "supercar". Z28 is assoicated with one car and one car only: Camaro. You can't say that about SS, which is why it makes more sense to use Z28 for the highest level, limited production supercar.

Here is what GM needs to do:

- Base V6 car (300hp, 3.6L VVT), maybe offer a cosmetic package as an "RS" model.

- SS (405hp, 6.2L LS3), should be offered as everything from a stripper to a fully loaded car.

- Z28 (505-525hp, some version of the supercharged LSA engine), limited production supercar, to compete with GT500, etc.
Sounds good, or offer the Z28 at a 450hp range and have a limited edition supercar called the ZL1



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