Tom's_03SVT

not new it wasn't, let's keep it apples and apples....

caseypayne69

The conversation was about the new V6 Camaro having near the hp of the 05 v8 Mustang. Where you got off topic of v6 vs v6 talk I don't know. The S/C 4.6 had around 425 hp not 350 like you say, where you get your info I don't know. And 425 hp from a DOHC 4.6 liter with a warranty and 31k is a steal of ah deal.

I did not come hear to say LS1 suck. I just dont think GM has as big a gap in power like they used too. And no Camaro's were not always faster then Mustangs. Foxbody's being one example.

On another note remember when the 05 GT came out? Motortrend put down a 13.1 in an auto 5-speed. Which is generally what a Mach 1 or LS1 Camaro time is. Yes I know there are great drivers out there that can probably pull insane qtr times in the Camaro but for the most part the 05-08 GT with the avg driver can hang with an LS1 F-body. And doing it with a heavier motor with 1.1 less liters. Get over it, its fact.

On a track who knows I think the F-body would win on a course.


ZX666r, GT500 came in at 41k not 45k. But the convertible was 45k. I agree for that price I'd rather have a base Corvette too.

caseypayne69

With avg drivers they pull about the same QTR times. With a professional driver the LS1 Camaro might be faster, but doesnt give enough reason to buy one over a new Stang. I wouldn't drive a 05-08 GT and say oh woe is me, the Camaro is a few tenths faster. Ohhh.

How does it make you feel that the Mustang v6 alone outsold all F-bodys combined?

QuickT/A

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Stock for the stock the 350 TPI owned the 5.0 in a quater mile especially the 91-92 F-bodys, when ford brought out the 93 Cobra to beat them GM released the LT1 and Ford took it in the sniffer again.

Where do you get your drugs? There is no time in the real world where an 05 mustang can run with an LS1. Maybe an LT1

Also you stated that if the F-body would have been around in 03-04 the most H.P. it would have had would have been 345. Ever heard of the LS6? If the Camaro was in production when the Cobra was built you could bet your *** that it would have had a 400 horse LS6 and would have run faster times than the cobra.

UltraZLS1

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it makes me feel good that the mustang outsold the camaro. every other person and their ******* grandma around here drives a v6 mustang LOL. I am not kidding. we all know the measure of a sports car is its sales. I mean i see corvettes and vipers every other turn. and damn that ford taurus must rip...they sell the **** out of those

you sir are on crack if you think for one second that an ls1 wouldnt walk an 05 gt. they put down 260-270whp stock (ON average) compared to the ls1's 300 AVERAGE(I have seen 320+) and weigh the same. Oh and btw they have even less torque...which is what wins all the traces according to you. oh and guess which motor responds better to mods? do a head and cam swap on your 05 gt ( or should I say cams and belts chains and **** also and pay a LOT more and be a LOT harder to do but thats another argument) and race a h/c ls1...omg that would be funny as hell to watch.


and what the hell is this 13.1 u are talking about? and the ls1 "Might be faster". jesus christ you are ignorant or have had your *** way to far up into mustang fantasy land to realize the stupidity of your statements. the most recent test I just seen for the mustang was with the 315 horsepower 5 speed bullitt...which is faster than a GT and they pulled a 13.6 with it. and even if this 13.1 did happen. then something was ******* going on...they had a freak car, iced the intake, tuned it etc etc. all things compareable an ls1 would have ran a 12.5 that day in fantasy land.

a new mustang gt would have its hands full with an lt1...you can bet on that. ( several mags and people have gone mid to high 13's with them)

anything else?

and you still never told me how it feels to know that an 11-12 year old motor can wipe the floor with fords latest rustang?


oh and nice call quick T/a...the 350 tpi did run right with the 5.0 stock for stock. which in mustang fanboy ignorance 15 years later means that the 5.0 killed it. LOL think about it if they are now saying the new 4.6 hangs with the LS1 I can see how this myth started very easaily way back then.

hell while im at it... a 350 tpi 91-92 z28 (245hp 345 tq) would spank a 96-98 mustang gt...how does this make you feel also? HAHA

SS#1531

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I think everyone (both sides of the argument) in this forum needs to come down to reality. Too much exaggeration on both sides.

UltraZLS1

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i think this vid might tingle your fancy. there are plenty more to watch on the net if you look. but i honestly take these with a grain of salt ( 2 many variables)...but I cant help but laugh at this destruction

http://youtube.com/watch?v=JGjADLxH4b0

i would guess this at about 15 car lengths by 120. but it is so bad it is really very hard to estimate that kind of distance without a gps. LOL

the mustang guys response is priceless...."the window was up i mean down" LOL and the fear in his breathing before the race is priceless ( at 1:46-1:47). now i know how it feels to be a mustang gt owner lol

the ls1 had some MINOR mods.lid, smooth bellow, ls6 intake which came stock on 01-02 cars, slp exhaust cat back, came stock on SS cars. the only thing he really has is his tune. he doesnt even have headers. so Ill go ahead and remove 5 lengths (generous) for that reason and the gt owner might have been able to read the license plate.

is that "might be faster"? ( a couple mustang guys actually did make themselves think that after watching lol if you read the comments) and btw the mustang got a good start and didnt even miss gears. and the mustang guy even got to do the beeps so you can forget those arguments. from the looks of this vid an lt1 would rock that thing.

now im waiting to hear about how those mods were such a big deal

im listening

TriShield

True story.

GM's DI V6 looks impressive on paper too but it's not going to give the Mustang GT a run for it's money on the drag strip or at stoplights. The Camaro is about the size and weight of the CTS and that car doesn't run anywhere close to the Mustang GT. I've also driven the new CTS a few times and it doesn't make it's grunt down low and it runs out of breath up high.

ramairjohn2000

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this casey payen has been on several threads talkn smack he is a moron please stop bantering with him mods lock this thread and him too please......

Assassin66

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no you are missing the point...i bought my Z/28 for $9K thats about 12-14 grand cheaper than an 03-04 cobra...and while 12-14 grand is not enough to build a good boost motor, after that i don't need an incredible amount of money to tear a new ******* on a cobra even if he is modded. Warranty really? its an 03-04 model warranty is gone man and even if it weren't it would be void after you start ******* the the motor...there is levels of fanboyism but you are way out there my friend

Assassin66

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how does it make you feel that they call the mustang the secretary car? and that all those v6s were sold to ugly fat chicks?

fast

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what side vents are you talking about? ever seen a '69 Camaro?

the stangs need a 6.2L to help them keep up with the pudgy SRT crowd

djsanchez2

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/END OF DISCUSSION FULL SPECS BROCHURE!!!

http://www.chevrolet.com/camaro/pdf/...ifications.pdf

Assassin66

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3860lbs and 422hp/408tq for the manual SS...guess all the mustang and challengers will be getting a face full of tail lights!!!

UltraZLS1

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Exactly

383ss

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dude, that is sig material LMAO