Anyone else dissappointed?
Anyone else dissappointed? I gotta say, im not to thrilled with what was released...i would have rather have had an underpowered light car then an overpowered heavy car (not that the ss is anywhere overpowered with a whoppin 422, which we know is really 430). But ever if our preyers are answered and in 2011 a z28 model comes out with 550 hp, this car will still be an underperformer. Hell, i would have rather have had a 3500 lbs car with an L76, take it out and throw in a LSA with a different pulley and get 600 horse. I dunno, looks like the 80's again when the camaro was the heavy kid in class (and i dont count the challanger cuz anything that dogde makes is a joke).
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With all the buildup I was looking for a surprise yesterday, but nothing was said that wasn't already known. NO Z28!! I like the car, but there is nothing there that makes me want to get rid of mine for a new one. Also, for what they will cost I think I'd rather buy a 67-69 and make it faster than the new one.
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I'm pissed about the Z28 rumors also.
Now, it is supposedly back on.
I don't know why GM has to be so tight lipped about it if it is
coming out.
http://www.superchevy.com/features/s...ved/index.html
Now, it is supposedly back on.
I don't know why GM has to be so tight lipped about it if it is
coming out.
http://www.superchevy.com/features/s...ved/index.html
My GTO weighs over 4000 lbs with the twin-turbos and 19" wheels. It doesn't drive like a heavy car at all, it actually feels lighter and handles much better than my '02 Firehawk. The LS3 engine has a ton of potential, these cars will still haul *** with minimal mods.
LS3 >>>>> LS1
I'll gladly take a well built heavier car with safety features and nicer interior over a half-assed 4th gen anyday. It isn't like we leave them stock anyways.
LS3 >>>>> LS1
I'll gladly take a well built heavier car with safety features and nicer interior over a half-assed 4th gen anyday. It isn't like we leave them stock anyways.
I'm pissed about the Z28 rumors also.
Now, it is supposedly back on.
I don't know why GM has to be so tight lipped about it if it is
coming out.
http://www.superchevy.com/features/s...ved/index.html
Now, it is supposedly back on.
I don't know why GM has to be so tight lipped about it if it is
coming out.
http://www.superchevy.com/features/s...ved/index.html
Good link, hope they still do it, i'll buy one in three years!!
Those who thinks is slow should read this post
https://ls1tech.com/forums/gen-5-racing-tech/958022-2010-camaro-ss-0-60-4-6-seconds.html
14s with a V6 and low 13s in the V8, that's dam good.
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It will have an LS3 option, that is what I wanted and that's why I am not dissapointed at all. Also for ONCE IN GM HISTORY they made a car that looks almost just like the concept! This car WILL be a hit, especially with a V6 model that almost keeps up with the GT..HA!
I agree
I dunno gonna have to just wait, drive one, and see what happens.
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That stuff doesn't raise the price "a little".
trishield's right.. we want an affordable V8 camaro.. if adding all this stuff then it would be close to corvette pricing.. and like nineball says it wont "stay" stock.. ill be personally taking it on a diet and blacking everything out on my Z28 when it comes out
I am disappointed with the weight, but it is still lighter or has a better power to weight ratio than the competition. If we can find decent wheels/tires a hundred pounds could probably be saved right there as well as some rotational inertia. I'm reserving my final judgement until it's out, we know the price and we've seen real world results, not just sales pitches. I like the looks except for the wagon wheels and the mufflers hanging under the valance in the rear; those things are what we all normally change anyway, so it's no big deal. Anyway, we shall see...
Weight is so important, at least to me, because I live in a place that regularly has density altitudes over 4000ft. N/A cars run around 3/4 of a second slower here. Just to give a good real world example, my buddy has a stalled LS2 GTO with a tune. It runs 14.0 at 99mph here. My stock turbo dumdumdumdumdum went 13.3 at 110 on the same day at the same track. He started with a 400hp LS2, so with a tune he's maybe 415 or so. I don't know what his wheel Hp is, but it's probably on the order of 350whp at sea level. My Skittle made 297whp/347wtq. The difference is the 4100lbs vs. 3050 lbs with driver weights (weighed at the same scale/same day).
The corvette guys are getting 385-390 rwhp stock. I think they are getting 425-430 w/ bolt ons. With a cam/light porting they are getting 480-500 rwhp. Seems like the L92 heads work well on the 6.2s. Not too dissappointing to me.
It's also kind of weird how the vettes are able to run regular gas, maybe because vettes are lighter?
The weight does suck but some of the newer cars are pretty impressive with the higher weights.
It's also kind of weird how the vettes are able to run regular gas, maybe because vettes are lighter?
The weight does suck but some of the newer cars are pretty impressive with the higher weights.
Or keep what i got....which is exactly what gm doesnt want. And yes the camaro is supposed to be that kind of car. There is no rule that says a mucsle car has to be heavy. A first gen camaro weighed in at what 3200-3400 lbs? i guess that wasnt "that kind of car". i would rather pay 35k-40k and get a monster out of the box that i dont have to touch then pay 25k and put 10k into to make it good. i mean hell if im gm...call slp or gmmg have them make hood fenders and a couple go fast parts make 3000 units and make people like me happy that are willing to pay. im not trying to bust ***** im just talking out my *** bored at work. Honestly im tired of tinkering with cars...i just wanna drive them.