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From: FL
The GT's weigh around 3500. I think its a good thing the IRS doesnt come equipped. Weight = bad! I have never owned a Ford but I like the 05+. I never really had a thing for the 95-04's. They looked terrible IMO but sounded great. Im wondering how much HP increase the 2010 stang will get? Maybe they will install better cams like Rub says.
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I love this thread! Ive ownd a v6 stang, a 5.0L, and a Cobra. But i wanted the best possible car to make really fast, so the camaro wins. Mustang owners should just scout this site, they dont need to register, just look. They have stangnet, mustangworld, and svt performance. I do the same, just scout their sites..... dont have to start crap, we all have the same goal....be fast as possible while looking the best possible! 
Stop with this ******* useless bickering.......this isn't kindergarden
Let's remeber my country men the GTR from japan is here and that should be our main objective, whether you got a bowtie or a blue oval is not as important as kicking a samurai's ***
Let's remeber my country men the GTR from japan is here and that should be our main objective, whether you got a bowtie or a blue oval is not as important as kicking a samurai's ***
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From: MIDDLE GA.
Id say from 93-02. Speaking against the Camaro, the Stang has triumphed since 2003 & will continue their dominance through 2010. The GT500 will eat a LS3 Camaro, hence Stang > Camaro & Stang bragging rights! I apologize for taking a dump in your cereal bowl! Stop whining & just accept it. There are so many "embellishments" in this section, so dont get upset when I call them out!!! see below
You know since there is no 2003-2009 camaro.And then again when compairing the fastest mustang to the regular v-8 camaro. ??? Am I missing something?? Oh well too late he's gone
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Let's remeber my country men the GTR from japan is here and that should be our main objective, whether you got a bowtie or a blue oval is not as important as kicking a samurai's ***
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From: Western Kentucky
I do understand that the LS1 is the best motor out, the Gen 3's anyway with low cost, light, easy to mod, but I still love the power of a high performance 5.4 liter DOHC 4v. THEY do beat LS engines in power to cubics ratio. But they are heavy, and expensive so they lose all over again. Their's guys with 5.4's NA throwing 550 rwhp in the corral.net. But I'd still drop in an LS1 engine in my stang because its lightier and cheaper.
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From: FL
I dont blame you for wanting a 03-04 Cobra! Those things are & sound absolutely sick! I test drove one of those newer stangs & I was somewhat impressed. It felt as fast as my stock WS6. Id say, get out of your 96 & into something newer!
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From: St.Charles MO
Please PLEASE explain to me how.
How is displacement compared to peak power show anything about performance?
What if you took an LS1, "destroked/debored" it (just go with it) to smaller displacement, and then added bolt ons to makeup for the power loss. So your back at 345hp, yet you are not faster, so what is the point?
What does actually matter is weight, physical size, and the torque curve.
An engine that is lighter, physically smaller (can be located closer to the ground, and closer to the center of the car) and has a flatter torque curve will be a superior engine.
Tell me, which is more impressive engineering:
Engine A with 5L, 400hp/400ft.lbs, weighs 400lbs.
Engine B with 4L, 400hp/300ft.lbs weighs 500lbs, and is physically bigger than engine A, and more expensive.
How is displacement compared to peak power show anything about performance?
What if you took an LS1, "destroked/debored" it (just go with it) to smaller displacement, and then added bolt ons to makeup for the power loss. So your back at 345hp, yet you are not faster, so what is the point?
What does actually matter is weight, physical size, and the torque curve.
An engine that is lighter, physically smaller (can be located closer to the ground, and closer to the center of the car) and has a flatter torque curve will be a superior engine.
Tell me, which is more impressive engineering:
Engine A with 5L, 400hp/400ft.lbs, weighs 400lbs.
Engine B with 4L, 400hp/300ft.lbs weighs 500lbs, and is physically bigger than engine A, and more expensive.
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From: FL
IM JUST SAYIN! The new 4.6 is comparable to the my LS1. I never thought id see the day! From what ive read, the stock dyno's between both cars are not that far off (10-20rwhp). To me, its impressive they are so close with 1 liter less! Im not tryin to step on a banmine but simply giving credit where credit is due. Whats wrong with that? This isnt 2002 anymore & the mustang has come up, IMO!!!!
IM JUST SAYIN! The new 4.6 is comparable to the my LS1. I never thought id see the day! From what ive read, the stock dyno's between both cars are not that far off (10-20rwhp). To me, its impressive they are so close with 1 liter less! Im not tryin to step on a banmine but simply giving credit where credit is due. Whats wrong with that? This isnt 2002 anymore & the mustang has come up, IMO!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqyV2oeRaoA
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From: St.Charles MO
IM JUST SAYIN! The new 4.6 is comparable to the my LS1. I never thought id see the day! From what ive read, the stock dyno's between both cars are not that far off (10-20rwhp). To me, its impressive they are so close with 1 liter less! Im not tryin to step on a banmine but simply giving credit where credit is due. Whats wrong with that? This isnt 2002 anymore & the mustang has come up, IMO!!!!
GM CHOSE to use a 5.7L engine and Ford CHOSE to use a 4.6L engine. GM CHOSE to make 345hp/375ft.lbs in 1998 (they were in no way limited to make only that amount) and Ford CHOSE to make 300hp/325ft.lbs in 2005. Neither tried to get every last ounce of power out of the engine, so whats the point of comparing them as if they did?
EDIT: you never answered my original question.
Its a lot closer to 40RWHP difference. And once again, what does the displacement matter? Will you PLEASE explain to me in what way that helps performance. Does it make the engine physically smaller? No. Does it make the engine lighter? No.
GM CHOSE to use a 5.7L engine and Ford CHOSE to use a 4.6L engine. GM CHOSE to make 345hp/375ft.lbs in 1998 (they were in no way limited to make only that amount) and Ford CHOSE to make 300hp/325ft.lbs in 2005. Neither tried to get every last ounce of power out of the engine, so whats the point of comparing them as if they did?
EDIT: you never answered my original question.
GM CHOSE to use a 5.7L engine and Ford CHOSE to use a 4.6L engine. GM CHOSE to make 345hp/375ft.lbs in 1998 (they were in no way limited to make only that amount) and Ford CHOSE to make 300hp/325ft.lbs in 2005. Neither tried to get every last ounce of power out of the engine, so whats the point of comparing them as if they did?
EDIT: you never answered my original question.
check the dyno vid i posted kid.apparently, fords only lose like 5% through the drivetrain, hmm. lol