Help/Ideas on turning my car into an AMG
10-31-2008, 08:58 AM
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well, i own a american cars from 04/06/08 and my camaro from 98, and worked in a chrysler dealership from 04-08, and i have imprted cars from the us to europe, and i stand by what i said,
american cars are getting so much better then they where just few years ago, i do accept that, but they still have a long way to go,
i know about the new cts-v and i've checked every article i find about it, it is so promising, but i still do think that they will not be good enough, but they are gettin better,
maybe whe can never agree abut this, maybe the standarts are just diffirent, i am not talking about old american cars, as i say, my DD is a 2008 charger R/T, i also own a 2004 model. srt/4, and more stuff from the us,
american cars are getting so much better then they where just few years ago, i do accept that, but they still have a long way to go,
i know about the new cts-v and i've checked every article i find about it, it is so promising, but i still do think that they will not be good enough, but they are gettin better,
maybe whe can never agree abut this, maybe the standarts are just diffirent, i am not talking about old american cars, as i say, my DD is a 2008 charger R/T, i also own a 2004 model. srt/4, and more stuff from the us,
how do you like the interior of the new corvette?
new escalade?
navigator?
10-31-2008, 09:06 AM
#42
I think I get what he's wanting, rather than make the car an AMG, what would an AMG Engineer mod to improve the car with that in mind.
It's the same way we simply mod our cars to be faster. We want more power, but not make it like into a LS9 vette. We simply want an aspect of that deisgn, ie more power.
In the case of "making" it into a AMG car, he should focus on the aspects that he defines to make an AMG car.
We associate handling and power from Vette. From cadillac, we associate a luxury ride with some power, I personally think driving on a cloud and the "old man's drive" from a caddy powerful and fairly comfortable.
I personally modded my suspension to give me the handling feel of my 3rd gen. Back when I had both cars, my 4th gen felt too soft, body rolled too much and generally felt less safe on high speed turns than my 3rd gen. So using how my 3rd gen felt to me, I modded 1 suspension part at a time until I could basically hop from one car to another and say "these are my cars". I wasn't trying to make my 4th gen a 3rd gen, I was just trying to capture a feel or aspect of my 3rd gen into my 4th gen.
So if you know which aspects are important to you, ie maybe the interior, or a handling concept, or performance to handling ratio (which is the hardest part, but there are suspension geniuses on this forum). List them out and everyone else quit with the "he's making a TA into an AMG", cause he's not.
It's the same way we simply mod our cars to be faster. We want more power, but not make it like into a LS9 vette. We simply want an aspect of that deisgn, ie more power.
In the case of "making" it into a AMG car, he should focus on the aspects that he defines to make an AMG car.
We associate handling and power from Vette. From cadillac, we associate a luxury ride with some power, I personally think driving on a cloud and the "old man's drive" from a caddy powerful and fairly comfortable.
I personally modded my suspension to give me the handling feel of my 3rd gen. Back when I had both cars, my 4th gen felt too soft, body rolled too much and generally felt less safe on high speed turns than my 3rd gen. So using how my 3rd gen felt to me, I modded 1 suspension part at a time until I could basically hop from one car to another and say "these are my cars". I wasn't trying to make my 4th gen a 3rd gen, I was just trying to capture a feel or aspect of my 3rd gen into my 4th gen.
So if you know which aspects are important to you, ie maybe the interior, or a handling concept, or performance to handling ratio (which is the hardest part, but there are suspension geniuses on this forum). List them out and everyone else quit with the "he's making a TA into an AMG", cause he's not.
10-31-2008, 03:41 PM
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Finally someone understands what I'm after!!!! Thank you!
So far, the actual suggestions are good though. I am seriously thinking I'll wrap most of the plastics from the interior in leather. Sound deaden even more than I already have. Integrate any electrical addons. (my valentine one and my Garmin etc so there are no cigarette lighter plug ins. with possibly a double DIN with navigation built in, but I already love my garmin, my JVC and the custom aluminum install kit) new leather, and carpet, and possibly different shocks. After the new cam and tune, if it's slower than I am can tolerate, a Turbo may be in order. I realize poly isn't my best choice for comfort and noise levels, but my car tends to eat rubber transmission mounts. And most supsension upgrades use poly.
So far, the actual suggestions are good though. I am seriously thinking I'll wrap most of the plastics from the interior in leather. Sound deaden even more than I already have. Integrate any electrical addons. (my valentine one and my Garmin etc so there are no cigarette lighter plug ins. with possibly a double DIN with navigation built in, but I already love my garmin, my JVC and the custom aluminum install kit) new leather, and carpet, and possibly different shocks. After the new cam and tune, if it's slower than I am can tolerate, a Turbo may be in order. I realize poly isn't my best choice for comfort and noise levels, but my car tends to eat rubber transmission mounts. And most supsension upgrades use poly.
11-01-2008, 10:25 AM
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Been thinking about this a bit more, may be I am getting too far into details - but wouldn't you want your car to be more like a Aston Martin?
http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=...&ct=image&cd=1
http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=...&ct=image&cd=1
The AMG is usually a 4 door sedan whereas our cars link more to the grand touring catagory, which is where you find the Aston.
http://image.automotive.com/f/auto_s...erior_view.jpg
http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=...&ct=image&cd=1
http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=...&ct=image&cd=1
The AMG is usually a 4 door sedan whereas our cars link more to the grand touring catagory, which is where you find the Aston.
http://image.automotive.com/f/auto_s...erior_view.jpg
11-09-2008, 08:31 PM
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hey man, if you have the money, for sound deadening i would say go wiht Second Skin Damplifier Pro. Also make sure you cover every part of the car with that if you want to truly make it feel alot more solid. ie. door panels, sail panels, flooring of the car, trunk hatch, wheel wells, firewall.. etc. Just that alone will make the car alot more solid.
11-10-2008, 10:23 PM
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11-12-2008, 11:04 PM
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I have just finished with the sound deadening. I put down a layer of FAT MAT on the floor, tunnel ,sail panels, doors etc, with an extra layer directly on the areas that are over the exhaust. I then put a layer of open cell foam all over the floor and tunnel, and I have lined all the interior panels with closed cell foam. I used spray in undercoating in areas I couldn't reach. At the same time, I installed the alarm from hell that just about drove me nuts!
I just now have to put it all back together. I'll report the differences the sound deadening made later.
I just now have to put it all back together. I'll report the differences the sound deadening made later.hey man, if you have the money, for sound deadening i would say go wiht Second Skin Damplifier Pro. Also make sure you cover every part of the car with that if you want to truly make it feel alot more solid. ie. door panels, sail panels, flooring of the car, trunk hatch, wheel wells, firewall.. etc. Just that alone will make the car alot more solid.
11-22-2008, 06:15 PM
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First drive since full interior sound deadening and I have to say damn! 
I love it! My car is so quiet inside. You wouldn't believe it. This has been one of my favorite mods I have ever made. It makes the entire car feel more solid.
I love it! My car is so quiet inside. You wouldn't believe it. This has been one of my favorite mods I have ever made. It makes the entire car feel more solid. 
11-23-2008, 08:48 PM
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I valet cars part time and have driven a CL63 AMG, SL65 AMG, and the new CTS. I honestly feel that the CTS has better "workmanship" to it. The CL63 AMG's interior felt cheap and had a lot of play to the steering wheel. The SL65 felt like they overdid the interior, it feels like they put too much into the interior especially the bulky front seats. The CTS's are very refined. It's all about personal preference.
